Plato Laws 9

Robert Gregg Bury (Translator)

Laws. Plato. Robert Gregg Bury (Translator). Cambridge, MA. 1926.

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Laws (English) (Plato in Twelve Volumes, Vol. 10-11. Bury, R. G., translator. Cambridge, MA, Harvard University Press; London, William Heinemann Ltd. 1926 (printing).)

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Νόμοι Perseus (Platonis Opera, Tomus V: Tetralogia VIII. Burnet, John, editor. Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1914.) — 9 focus

Notes on the current edition

Laws

1. Plat. Laws 842e .
2. Cp. Plat. Laws 713b .
3. i.e. hard-shelled; seeds struck by a beast’s horn were vulgarly supposed to become horny and unfit for cooking.
4. Cp. Plat. Laws 718b .
5. Cp. Plat. Laws 871a .
6. Cp. Plat. Laws 862d ., Plat. Laws 934a .
7. Cp. Plat. Laws 745a ; Plat. Laws 745b .
8. Cp. Plat. Laws 865e ff ., Plat. Laws 877c ff .
9. Cp. Plat. Laws 767d .
10. But cp. Plat. Laws 859b ff ., Plat. Laws 933e ff .
11. Plat. Laws 720a .
12. i.e. sufferings.
13. Plat. Laws 854b .
14. Plat. Laws 731c , Plat. Laws 734b : cp. Aristot. Nic. Eth. 1109b.30 ff .
15. In what follows, the Athenian, adopting the Socratic dictum that vice is involuntary (cp. Plat. Tim. 86e ff .), applies it to the special vice of injustice; but here his view is found to conflict with the popular view which distinguishes between voluntary and involuntary acts of injustice, and assigns to them different legal penalties. If this popular distinction is wrong, the lawgiver must either (a) simply apply the Socratic rule, and enact that all unjust acts are involuntary and deserve therefore equal penalties, or (b) draw a new distinction, which Ath. proceeds to do in 861 E ff. (see note ad loc.).
16. Literally, to legislate down (i.e. over-rule the popular objection to our Socratic view).
17. The proper distinction to be drawn (as Ath. proceeds to argue) is not that between voluntary and involuntary acts of injustice (since there are no such voluntary acts), but that between injuries ( βλάβαι, acts causing loss) and acts of injustice. Injustice is really a quality of the agent rather than of the act, and (like all vice) is a form of un-reason: as the slave of un-reason, the unjust man is never a free agent. Hence the task of the lawgiver is two fold, (1) to make good the injuries, and (2) to cure the agent of his injustice by restoring the power of reason ( moral sense) in his soul.
18. Cp. Plat. Laws 957e , Plat. Rep. 410a
19. Cp. Plat. Laws 864d ., Plat. Laws 908e ; Aristot. Nic. Eth. 1110b.18 ff .
20. Cp. Plat. Laws 732a , Plat. Phileb. 48e .
21. i.e. ignorance is not regarded as an active force (like passion or pleasure) capable of opposing reason and tyrannizing over the soul.
22. Cp. Plat. Phileb. 40d , Plat. Phileb. 40e .
23. Cp. Plat. Laws 863c , Plat. Laws 863d .
24. i.e. Plat. Laws 857b .
25. Cp. Plat. Laws 759c .
26. Cp. Plat. Laws 855c .
27. Such as the costs of the purification-rites.
28. Cp. Plat. Laws 697b , Plat. Laws 831c ; Aristot. Pol. 1323a.25 ff ; Aristot. Nic. Eth. 1098 b 13 ff .
29. Plat. Laws 831c ; cp. Aristot. Pol. 1271a.17 .
30. Cp. Plat. Laws 722d : whereas the law coerces, its prelude seeks to persuade.
31. This implies the (Pythagorean) doctrine of re-incarnation: cp. Plat. Laws 904c , Plat. Rep. 614e ff ., Plat. Tim. 90e ff .
32. Cp. Plat. Laws 877c Plat. Laws 877d .
33. Plat. Laws 855c .
34. Plat. Laws 870d , Plat. Laws 870e .
35. Plat. Laws 813d .
36. Cp. Plat. Prot. 352b ff .; Aristot. Nic. Eth. 1145 b 24 ff .
37. Cp. Plat. Laws 770b , Plat. Laws 846b , Plat. Laws 846c .
38. For daemon in this sense of tutelary Genius or Guardian-angel, cp. Plat. Laws 732c , Plat. Rep. 619d ff , Plat. Rep. 619e .
39. Plat. Laws 867a .
40. For the respect due to Strangers as a religious duty, cp. Plat. Laws 729e .
41. Cp. Plat. Laws 853d .
42. Cp. Plat. Laws 880d .