Soc.
Some there are who suppose that he who has colloquy is a cup-companion and fellow-jester of Zeus: but one may take the following as a proof that
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they who suppose so are babblers. For of all the many nations of men, both Greek and foreign, the only people who refrain from drinking-bouts and the jesting that occurs where there is wine, are the Cretans, and after them the Spartans, who learnt it from the Cretans. In
Crete
it is one of their laws which Minos ordained that they are not to drink with each other to intoxication. And yet it is evident that the things he thought honorable were what he ordained as lawful for his people as well. For surely Minos did not, like an inferior person,
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think one thing and do another, different from what he thought: no, this intercourse, as I say, was held by means of discussion for education in virtue. Wherefore he ordained for his people these very laws, which have made
Crete
happy through the length of time, and
Sparta
happy also, since she began to use them; for they are divine.
Rhadamanthus was a good man indeed, for he had been educated by Minos; he had, however, been educated, 320c not in the whole of the kingly art, but in one subsidiary to the kingly, enough for presiding in law courts; so that he was spoken of as a good judge. For Minos used him as guardian of the law in the city, and Talos 1 as the same for the rest of Crete . For Talos thrice a year made a round of the villages, guarding the laws in them, by holding their laws inscribed on brazen tablets, which gave him his name of brazen. And what Hesiod 2 also has said 320d of Minos is akin to this. For after mentioning him by name he remarks—
Hes. Fr. 144
And by the scepter of Zeus he means nothing else than the education that he had of Zeus, whereby he directed
Crete
.
Rhadamanthus was a good man indeed, for he had been educated by Minos; he had, however, been educated, 320c not in the whole of the kingly art, but in one subsidiary to the kingly, enough for presiding in law courts; so that he was spoken of as a good judge. For Minos used him as guardian of the law in the city, and Talos 1 as the same for the rest of Crete . For Talos thrice a year made a round of the villages, guarding the laws in them, by holding their laws inscribed on brazen tablets, which gave him his name of brazen. And what Hesiod 2 also has said 320d of Minos is akin to this. For after mentioning him by name he remarks—
Who was most kingly of mortal kings, and lorded it over more neighboring folk than any, holding the scepter of Zeus: therewith it was that he ruled the cities as king.
Com.
Then how has it ever come about, Socrates, that this report is spread abroad of Minos, as an uneducated
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and harsh-tempered person?
Minos. Plato. Walter Rangeley Maitland Lamb (Translator). Cambridge, MA. 1927.
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