Plato Republic 9.578

Paul Shorey (Translator)

Republic. Plato. Paul Shorey (Translator). Cambridge, MA. 1935-37.

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Republic (English) (Plato in Twelve Volumes, Vol. 5-6. Shorey, Paul, translator. Cambridge, MA, Harvard University Press; London, William Heinemann Ltd. 1935-37 (printing).)

Editions (1)
Πολιτεία Perseus (Platonis Opera Tomus IV: Tetralogia VIII. Burnet, John, editor. Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1905.) — 9.578 focus

Notes on the current edition

Republic

1. Cf. Laws 832 A
πεινῶσι τὴν ψυχήν
, Xen. Symp. 4. 36
πεινῶσι χρημάτων
, Oecon. xiii. 9
πεινῶσι γὰρ τοῦ ἐπαίνου
, Aristot. Pol. 1277 a 24
Jason said he was hungry when he was not a tyrant,
Shakes. Tempest I. ii. 112
so dry he was for sway.
Cf. Novotny, p. 1902, on Epist. vii. 335 B, also Max. Tyr. Diss. iv. 4
τί γὰρ ἂν εἴη πενέστερον ἀνδρὸς ἐπιθυμοῦντος διηνεκῶς
. . . ; Julian, Or. ii. 85 B, Teles (Hense), pp. 32-33. for the thought see also Gorg. 493-494. cf. also 521 A with 416 E, Phaedr. 279 C, and Epist. 355 C.
2. Cf. on 508 E, p. 104, note c.
3. Cf. Protag. 355 A, Alc. I. 104 E, 579 C.
4. Stallbaum quotes Plut. De virtut. et vit. p. 101 D, Lucian, Herm. 67
ἰδιώτην βίον ζῆν
, Philo, Vit. Mos. 3.
5. Adam ad loc. emends τῷ τοιούτῳ to τῶ τοιοῦτω, insisting that the MS. reading cannot be satisfactorily explained.
6. Cf. Vol. I. p. 71, note f on 344 D-E, and What Plato Said, p. 484, on Laches 185 A.
7. Cf. Polit. 259 B. But Plato is not concerned with the question of size or numbers here.
8. Plato’s imaginary illustration is one of his many anticipations of later history, and suggests to an American many analogies.
9. Cf. Critias, fr. 37 Diels ii.3 p. 324, on Sparta’s fear of her slaves.
10. For ἐν παντί cf. 579 B, Symp. 194 A
ἐν παντὶ εἴης
, Euthyd. 301 A
ἐν παντὶ ἐγενόμην ὑπὸ ἀπορίας
, Xen. Hell. v. 4. 29, Thucyd. vii. 55, Isoc. xiii. 20
ἐν πᾶσιν . . κακοῖς
. Cf.
παντοῖος εἶναι (γίννεσθαι)
Herod. ix. 109, vii. 10. 3, iii. 124, Lucian, Pro lapsu 1.

Commentary

Commentary on Plato, Republic (Plato. The Republic, Vol 1-2. Adam, James, editor. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 1902-1903.) focus

τήν γε πόλιν . γε is restrictive: our verdict on the individual has still to be pronounced. Cf. 582 B, C. J. and C. are the only editors who retain τε here (see cr. n.), but the anacoluthon would be too harsh, and τὸν ἔχοντά τε in 575 A is different: see note ad loc.

τοιοῦτος μάλιστα : i.q. ἄθλιος μάλιστα. The subject is οὗτος, and ὁ τοιοῦτος μάλιστα is in the predicate.