Plato Republic 8.569

Paul Shorey (Translator)

Republic. Plato. Paul Shorey (Translator). Cambridge, MA. 1935-37.

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Republic (English) (Plato in Twelve Volumes, Vol. 5-6. Shorey, Paul, translator. Cambridge, MA, Harvard University Press; London, William Heinemann Ltd. 1935-37 (printing).)

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Πολιτεία Perseus (Platonis Opera Tomus IV: Tetralogia VIII. Burnet, John, editor. Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1905.) — 8.569 focus

Notes on the current edition

Republic

1. For καλῶν κἀγαθῶν cf. Aristoph. Knights 185, and Blaydes on 735. See also on 489 E, p. 27, note d.
2. Cf. Blaydes on Aristoph. Clouds 123.
3. For the threatening γνώσεται cf. 362 A, 466 C, Il. xviii. 270 and 125, Theocr. xxvi. 19
τάχα γνώσῃ
, and Lucian, Timon 33
εἴσεται
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4. For the juxtaposition οἷος οἷον Cf. Symp. 195 A, Sophocles El. 751, Ajax 557, 923, Trach. 995, 1045.
5. Cf. on 574 C, pp. 346-347, note e.
6. As we say, Out of the frying-pan into the fire. Cf. Anth. Pal. ix. 17. 5
ἐκ πυρὸς ὡς αἶνος ’πεσες ἐς φλόγα
, Theodoret, Therap. iii. p. 773
καὶ τὸν καπνὸν κατὰ τὴν παροιμίαν, ὡς ἔοικε, φύγοντες, εἰς αὐτὸ δὴ τὸ πῦρ ἐμπεπτώκαμεν
. See Otto, p. 137; also Solon 7 (17) ( Anth. Lyr.,Bergk-Hiller, 9 in Edmonds, Greek Elegy and Iambus, i. p. 122, Loeb Classical Library)
εἰς δὲ μονάρχου δῆμος ἀιδρείῃ δουλοσύνην ἔπεσεν
, Herod. iii. 81
τυράννου ὕβριν φεύγοντας ἄνδρας ἐς δήμου ἀκολάστου ὕβριν πεσεῖν
, and for the idea Epist. viii. 354 D.
7. Cf. Epist. viii. 354 D.
8. For the rhetorical style Cf. Tim. 41
θεοὶ θεῶν
, Polit. 303 C
σοφιστῶν σοφιστάς
, and the biblical expressions, God of Gods and Lord of Lords, e.g. Deut. x. 17, Ps. cxxxvi. 2-3, Dan. xi. 36, Rev. xix. 16. Cf. Jebb on Soph. O. T. 1063
τρίδουλος
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Commentary

Commentary on Plato, Republic (Plato. The Republic, Vol 1-2. Adam, James, editor. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 1902-1903.) focus

ἀπὸ is read by Flor. U and V as well as q. Schneider alone retains ὑπό, but ἐλευθεροῦσθαι ὑπὸ means only ‘be freed by.’ It is better to write ἀπό than (with Baiter) to excise the preposition. For the corruption see Bast Comment. Pal. p. 794.

καλῶν κἀγαθῶν . See on VI 489 E.

κελεύει . Baiter's conjecture κελεύῃ is a curious error. κελεύει depends of course on ὅτι: in oratio recta the δῆμος would say κελεύω σε ἀπιέναι. Cf. διακελεύοιντο in X 614 D and note ad loc.

τὸ λεγόμενον . τὸν καπνὸν φεύγων εἰς τὸ πῦρ ἐνέπεσον. ἐπὶ τῶν τὰ μικρὰ τῶν δεινῶν φευγόντων, καὶ εἰς μείζονα δεινὰ ἐμπιπτόντων. (Diogen. VIII 45 in Leutsch u. Schneidewin Paroem. Gr. I p. 314, where the other authorities are also cited.)

φεύγων κτλ. : ‘in trying to escape the smoke of servitude to free men will have fallen into the fire of the masterdom of slaves.’ Herwerden proposes to excise ἐλευθέρων and δούλων (both here and in C below). It is difficult to believe that he had read 567 E and 569 A ( δουλεύων τοῖς αὑτοῦ δούλοις) before making this audacious suggestion. The chiasmus δουλείας ἐλευθέρων—δούλων δεσποτείας is in Plato's finest style.

ἀκαίρου . ἀκράτου (Herwerden: cf. 562 D) would be grossly incongruous with μεταμπισχόμενος, and is otherwise less suitable here than ἀκαίρου.

δούλων is emphatic: ‘the most galling form of slavery’ is slavery to slaves (J. and C.). Cf. 567 E note