Plato Republic 8.548

Paul Shorey (Translator)

Republic. Plato. Paul Shorey (Translator). Cambridge, MA. 1935-37.

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Notes on the current edition

Republic

1. This was said to be characteristic of Sparta. Cf. Newman on Aristot. Pol. 1270 a 13, Xen. Rep. Lac. 14, 203 and 7. 6, and the Chicago Dissertation of P. H. Epps, The Place of Sparta in Greek History and Civilization, pp. 180-184.
2. Cf. 416 D.
3. Cf. Laws 681 A, Theaet. 174 E.
4. νεοττιάς suggests Horace’s
tu nidum servas
(Epist. i. 10.6). Cf also Laws 776 A.
5. Cf. Laws 806 A-C, 637 B-C, Aristot. Pol. 1269 b 3, and Newman ii. p. 318 on the Spartan women. Cf. Epps, op. cit. pp. 322-346.
6. φιλαναλωταί, though different, suggests Sallust’s
alieni appetens sui profusus
( Cat. 5). Cf. Cat. 52
publice egestatem, privatim opulentiam.
7. Cf. 587 A, Laws 636 D, Symp. 187 E, Phaedr. 251 E.
8. Cf. Aristot. Pol. 1270 b 34 with Newman’s note; and Euthyphro 2 C tell his mother the state.
9. Cf. Laws 720 D-E. This is not inconsistent with Polit. 293 A, where the context and the point of view are different.
10. This is of course not the mixed government which Plato approves Laws 691-692, 712 D-E, 759 B. Cf. What Plato Said, p. 629.
11. For διαφανέστατον cf. 544 D. The expression διαφανέστατον . . . ἕν τι μόνον, misunderstood and emended by Apelt, is colored by an idea of Anaxagoras expressed by Lucretius i. 877-878:
illud Apparere unum cuius sint plurima mixta.
Anaxag. Fr. 12. Diels 1.3, p. 405
ἀλλ’ ὅτων πλεῖστα ἔνι, ταῦτα ἐνδηλότατα ἓν ἕκαστον ἐστι καὶ ἦν
. Cf. Phaedr. 238 A, Cratyl. 393 misunderstood by Dümmler and emended ( ἐναργής for ἐγκρατής) with the approval of Wilamowitz, Platon, ii. p. 350.
12. There is no contradiction between this and Laws 870 C if the passage is read carefully.
13. Cf. on 544 D, p. 240, note a.
14. Cf. Phaedo 65 A, Porphyry, De abst. i. 27, Teubner, p. 59
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Commentary

Commentary on Plato, Republic (Plato. The Republic, Vol 1-2. Adam, James, editor. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 1902-1903.) focus

οἷς ἐθέλοιεν ἄλλοις : masculine, not (as D. and V. translate), neuter. The reference is probably intended to include παιδικά as well as others. The Spartan's domestic nest was doubtless occasionally a nest of vice.

τὸν νόμον ἀποδιδράσκοντες . The expression is borrowed by Aristotle Pol. Β 9. 1270^{b} 34, where see Newman's note.

τῆς ἀληθινῆς ‐‐ φιλοσοφίας . Cf. the famous saying φιλοσοφία μεγίστη μουσική in Phaed. 61 A .