οὐδαμῶς, ἔφη
. The argument is here broken off, and not (in its present form) again resumed. If Socrates had continued, Protagoras would doubtless have asserted that what is
ὠφέλιμον for man is
for him
ἀγαθόν . The argument has therefore been:
σωφρονεῖν , it is said, is
ἀδικεῖν . But
σωφρονεῖν =
εὖ φρονεῖν =
εὖ βουλεύεσθαι
if (but only if)
εὖ πράττειν (i.e.
ὠφέλιμα πράττειν ) accompanies
εὐβουλία . In other words
ὠφέλιμα πράττειν =
ἀδικεῖν is the stage which we have reached—a thesis which it is the object of the
Republic and of a large part of the
Gorgias to refute.
πολλὰ οἶδ’ ἅ
. The speech which follows may be from some work by Protagoras (so recently Zeller in the
Archiv für Geschichte der Philosophie, V, 2, 177), perhaps his
περὶ ἀρετῶν , mentioned by Diog. Laert. IX. 8. 55 (since
ἀρετή is a general word for excellence). Zeller points out that just as the notion ‘true’ was conceived by Protagoras (in his
πάντων μέτρον ἄνθρωπος ) as relative, so here the notion ‘good’ is represented as relative and varying with that to which it is relative.
ἀνθρώποις μὲν—ὠφέλιμα
:
ἀνθρώποις μέν has no antithesis expressed: were the antitheses expressed in full, the sentence would be very cumbrous, running somewhat as follows:
ἔγωγε πολλὰ οἶδ’ ἃ ἀνθρώποις μὲν <τὰ μὲν> ἀνωφελῆ ἐστί, καὶ σιτία—μυπία, <τοῖς δὲἄλλοις ζῴοις καὶ φυτοῖς ὠφέλιμα>, τὰ δέ γε ὠφέλιμα <τοῖς ἀνθρώποις, τοῖς δὲ ἄλλοις ἀνωφελῆ> . For
μέν without a balancing clause see on
τὸ μὲν καταγελασθῆναι in
Euthyphr. 3C
, and on
330A
above for
τὰ δέ without a preceding
τὰ μέν. ἀνωφελῆ is ‘hurtful’, as frequently: see above on
οἷον μὴ ὅσιον in
331A
With Protagoras' classification of
ὠφέλιμα—ἀνωφελῆ—οὐδέτερα cf.
Gorg. 467E
ἆρ’ οὖν ἔστιν τι τῶν ὄντων, ὃ οὐχὶ ἤτοι ἀγαθόν γ’ ἐστὶν ἢ κακὸν ἢ μεταξὺ τούτων οὔτε ἀγαθὸν οὔτε κακόν(where see Thompson's note) and below,
351D
οὐδενί
: Schanz follows Naber in reading
οὐδέσι against the MSS. both here and in
Euthyd. 302C
. The plural would be more appropriate here, but what is denied of all individuals is denied of the species, and the dative plural of
οὐδείς seems to lack authority.
εἰ δ’ ἐθέλοις—πάντα ἀπόλλυσιν
. Heindorf suggests
εἰ δ’ ἐθέλεις —the indicative being generally used in this phrase, e.g.
Alcib. I, 122B
εἰ δ’ αὖ ἐθέλεις εἰς πλούτους ἀποβλέψαι κτλ., αἰσχυνθείης ἂν ἐπὶ σαυτῷ —but Goodwin,
M.T. p. 188, § 500, quotes a precisely similar example from Thuc. II. 39. 5
καίτοι εἰ π(αθυμίᾳ μᾶλλον ἢ ρόνων μελέτῃ—ἐθέλοιμεν κινδυνεύειν, ρεπιγίγνεται ἡμῖν κτλ. In both examples the present in the apodosis contains a reference to the future.
φυτοῖς—πάγκακον
. Theophr.
Hist. Plant. IV. 16. 5
πολέμιον γὰρ δὴ καὶ τοῦτο (sc.
τὸ ἔλαιον )
πᾶσι· καὶ ἔλαιον ἐπιχέουσι τοῖς ὑρολείμμασι τῶν π(ιζῶν· ἰσχύει δὲ μᾶλλον τὸ ἔλαιον ἐν τοῖς νέοις καὶ ἄρτι φυομένοις· ἀσθενέστερα γάρ κτλ.
ταῖς θριξὶν—ἀνθρώπου
. Arist.
περὶ ζῴων γενέσεως V. 5. 785
a . 30 ff. says that a mixture of oil and water is a remedy against grey hairs.
ἐνταῦθα
, i.e.
ἐν τῷ ἀνθρώπῳ .
ταὐτόν
. This form, not
ταὐτό , of the neuter of
ὁ αὐτός is almost regular in Plato: see on
314B
μέλλει
, sc.
ὁ ἀσθενῶν : see on
319D
ὅσον μόνον
‘just enough to’. Cf.
Rep. III. 416E
δέχεσθαι μισθὸν τῆς φυλακῆς τοσοῦτον, ὅσον μήτε ρεπιεῖναι αὐτοῖς. . .μήτε ἐνδεῖν,
Theaet. 161B
ἐγὼ δὲ οὐδὲν ἐπίσταμαι πλέον πλὴν βραχέος, ὅσον λόγον παρ’ ἑτέρου σοφοῦ λαβεῖν καὶ ἀποδέξασθαι μετρίως .
τὴν δυσχέρειαν—ὄψοις
. The nausea is of course that felt by a sick person at the smell of food: so far there is therefore no reason for holding
ῥινῶν to be corrupt and reading
χυμῶν (as Kroschel formerly read), still less
εὐκρινῶν with Bergk. But it is not clear how oil could thus prevent nausea, nor does there seem to be any parallel among the ancients to such a statement. It is known that the ancients (like many modern peoples) used oil in cooking much as we use butter (see Blümner's
Privataltherthümer, p. 228), but the present passage seems rather to point to the use of some kind of fragrant oil sprinkled on the food after it was cooked. The Greeks were at all events not unfamiliar with the use of scents in banqueting: see Xen.
Symp. II. 2 ff. Kroschel thinks Plato is making fun of Protagoras by putting into his mouth the word ‘
ῥινῶν pro
πικρῶν vel
χυμῶν ’, but this view will hardly command assent.
καὶ βραχυτέρας ποίει
. Hirschig would reject the words, but they explain the metaphor in
σύντεμνε : see on
314A
κυβεύῃς τε καὶ κινδυνεύῃς .
ὅσα ἐμοὶ δοκεῖ
. Cf.
Gorg. 461D
τί δέ; οὐκ ἐξέσται μοι λέγειν ὁπόσα ἂν βούλωμαι
;
καὶ αὖ βραχέα
. Sauppe cites
Gorg. 449C
καὶ γὰρ αὖ καὶ τοῦτο ἕν ἐστιν ὧν φημί, μηδένα ἂν ἐν βπαχυτέποις ἐμοῦ τὰ αὐτὰ εἰρεῖν. Τούτου μὴν δεῖ, ὦ Γοπγία· καί μοι ἐρίδειξιν αὐτοῦ τούτου ροίησαι, τῆς βραχυλογίας, μακρολογίας δὲ εἰσαῦθις; cf. also
Gorg. 461D
and
Phaedr. 267B
.