303a
Y. Soc.
I fancy it is.Str.
But just as few is intermediate between one and a multitude, so the government of the few must be considered intermediate, both in good and in evil. But the government of the multitude is weak in all respects and able to do nothing great, either good or bad, when compared with the other forms of government, because in this the powers of government are distributed in small shares among many men; therefore of all these governments when they are lawful, this is the worst, and when they are all lawless it is the best; 303b and if they are all without restraint, life is most desirable in a democracy, but if they are orderly, that is the worst to live in; but life in the first kind of state is by far the first and best, with the exception of the seventh, for that must be set apart from all the others, as God is set apart from men. 1Y. Soc.
That statement appears to be true to the facts, and we must do as you say.Str.
Then those who participate in all those governments with the exception of the scientific one—are to be eliminated 303c as not being statesmen, but partisans and since they preside over the greatest counterfeits, they are themselves counterfeits, and since they are the greatest of imitators and cheats, they are the greatest of all sophists.Y. Soc.
This term sophist seems to have come round quite rightly to the so-called statesmen.Str.
Well, this part has been exactly like a play. Just as we remarked a moment ago, 2 a festive troop of centaurs or satyrs was coming into view, which we had to separate from the art of statesmanship; 303d and now we have succeeded in doing this, though it has been very difficult.Y. Soc.
So it seems.Str.
But another group remains, which is still more difficult to separate, because it is more closely akin to the kingly class and is also harder to recognize. I think we are in somewhat the same position as refiners of gold.Y. Soc.
How so?Str.
Why, the refiners first remove earth and stones and all that sort of thing; 303e and after that there remain the precious substances which are mixed with the gold and akin to it and can be removed only by fire—copper and silver and sometimes adamant. 3 These are removed by the difficult processes of smelting and tests, leaving before our eyes what is called unalloyed gold in all its purity.Y. Soc.
Yes, that is said, at least, to be the process.Statesman. Plato. Harold North Fowler (Translator). Cambridge, MA. 1925.
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