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Well, Stranger, it looks as though our account of the statesman were complete now.Str.
That would be a fine thing for us, Socrates. But not you alone must think so; I must think so, too, in agreement with you. As a matter of fact, however, in my opinion our figure of the king is not yet perfect, but like statue-makers who sometimes in their misapplied enthusiasm make too numerous and too large additions and thus delay the completion of their several works, 277b we too, at this time, wishing to make quick progress, and also to make clear in a grand style the error of our previous course, and, moreover, fancying that the use of great illustrations was proper in the case of a king, have taken up a marvellous mass of myth and have consequently been obliged to use a greater part of it than we should. So we have made our discourse too long and after all have never made an end of the tale, 277c but our talk, just like a picture of a living creature, seems to have a good enough outline, but not yet to have received the clearness that comes from pigments and the blending of colors. And yet it is more fitting to portray any living being by speech and argument than by painting or any handicraft whatsoever to persons who are able to follow argument; but to others it is better to do it by means of works of craftsmanship.Y. Soc.
That is true; but explain wherein you think our exposition is still deficient.Str.
It is difficult, my dear fellow, to set forth any of the greater ideas, except by the use of examples; for it would seem that each of us knows everything that he knows as if in a dream and then again, when he is as it were awake, knows nothing of it all.Y. Soc.
What do you mean by that?Str.
I seem at present in absurd fashion to have touched upon our experience in regard to knowledge.Y. Soc.
In what respect?Str.
Why, my friend, the very example I employ requires another example. 1Y. Soc.
Indeed? What is it? Don’t hesitate to tell on my account.Str.
I will tell, since you on your part are prepared to listen. We know that children, when they are just getting some knowledge of letters—Y. Soc.
Well?Str.
Recognize the several letters well enough in the short and easy syllables, and can make correct statements about them.Y. Soc.
Yes, of course.Statesman. Plato. Harold North Fowler (Translator). Cambridge, MA. 1925.
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