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William James Hickie (Translator)

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Clouds. Aristophanes. William James Hickie (Translator). London. 1853.

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Clouds (English) (Aristophanes. The Comedies of Aristophanes, Vol. I. Hickie, William James, translator. Bohn: London, 1853.)

Editions (1)
Νεφέλαι Perseus (Aristophanes. Aristophanis Comoediae, Vol. 1. Hall, F. W. and Geldart, William M., editors. Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1906.) — 1170 focus
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εἰς ἥν γε θήσειν τὰ πρυτανεῖά φασί μοι.
The construction ἥν γε θήσειν represents a striking example of the 'future infinitive of the passive' (or more accurately here, a future infinitive in the accusative case functioning as the subject of the infinitive clause) used in a relative clause dependent on an implied verb of motion or direction ('into which they say they will place...'). However, the specific syntactic oddity lies in the use of the future infinitive θήσειν (from τίθημι) with the article ἥν (accusative feminine singular of ὅς) functioning as the object of the preposition εἰς, yet appearing in a position where one might expect a finite verb or a different infinitive construction. This usage is rare in Aristophanes and likely reflects a deliberate comic distortion of high-style oracular or legalistic Greek, where the future infinitive is used to express a future action that is the object of the main verb's assertion (φασί). The particle γε adds a tone of emphasis or concession, typical of the comic exaggeration of the Sophists' pretensions to precision. The phrase essentially means 'into which, they say, they will place the prytaneia,' but the syntactic arrangement mimics the convoluted, often nonsensical legal or philosophical jargon that Aristophanes parodies in the Clouds.

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ὅπερ οἱ προτένθαι γὰρ δοκοῦσί μοι ποιεῖν·
The term προτένθαι (protenthai) is a hapax legomenon in Aristophanes, appearing only here in extant comedy. While the verb προτείνω (to stretch out or offer) is common, the specific aorist infinitive form here is morphologically irregular or potentially a scribal corruption for προτεῖναι. The context of the Clouds' rhetorical argument involves them claiming to 'stretch out' or 'offer' a new way of life; the unusual form may reflect Aristophanes' deliberate coinage to mimic the 'stretching' of logic or language by the Sophists, or it may represent a textual crux where the manuscript tradition (e.g., codex Venetus) preserves a form that later editors have struggled to reconcile with standard Attic morphology.