Homer Iliad 19.215

ed. David B. Monro, ed. Thomas W. Allen

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Iliad. Homer. ed. David B. Monro, ed. Thomas W. Allen. Oxford. 1908-1920.

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Ἰλιάς (Greek) (Homer. Homeri Opera, Volumes 1-2. Monro, D. B. (David Binning), editor; Allen, Thomas W. (Thomas William), editor. Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1908-1920.)

Translations (9)
Iliad Perseus (Homer. The Iliad, Volume 1-2. Murray, A. T. (Augustus Taber), translator. London: William Heinmann; New York: G.P. Putnam's Sons, 1924-1925.) — 19.215 focus
Iliad Perseus (Homer. The Iliad of Homer, rendered into English prose for the use of those who cannot read the original. Butler, Samuel, 1835-1902, translator. London: Longmans, Green, and Co, 1898.) — 19.249 focus
English (Butler, rev. Nagy et al., 2020) (OCR draft) Experimental (English (Butler, rev. Nagy et al., 2020)) — 19.215 focus
Odysseus answered, “Achilles, son of Peleus, mightiest of all the Achaeans, in battle you are better than I, and that more than a little, but in counsel I am much before you, for I am older and of greater knowledge. [220] Therefore be patient under my words. Fighting is a thing of which men soon surfeit, and when Zeus, who is war’s steward, weighs the upshot, it may well prove that the straw which our sickles have reaped is far heavier than the grain. [225] It may not be that the Achaeans should mourn the dead with their bellies; day by day men fall thick and threefold continually; when should we have respite from our sorrow [ ponos]? Let us mourn our dead for a day and bury them out of sight and mind, [230] but let those of us who are left eat and drink that we may arm and fight our foes more fiercely. In that hour let no man hold back, waiting for a second summons; [235] such summons shall bode ill for him who is found lagging behind at our ships; let us rather sally as one man and loose the fury of war upon the Trojans.”
English (William Cullen Bryant, 1870) (OCR draft) Experimental (English (William Cullen Bryant, 1870)) — 19.215 focus
English (Alexander Pope, 1720, ed. Watson, 1857) (OCR draft) Experimental (English (Alexander Pope, 1720, ed. Watson, 1857)) — 19.215 focus
‘O first of Greeks!’ (Ulysses thus rejoin'd,)
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‘The best and bravest of the warrior-kind!
‘Thy praise it is in dreadful camps to shine,
‘But old experience and calm wisdom, mine.
‘Then hear my counsel, and to reason yield;
‘The bravest soon are satiate of the field;
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‘Though vast the heaps that strew the crimson plain,
‘The bloody harvest brings but little gain:
‘The scale of conquest ever wavering lies,
‘Great Jove but turns it, and the victor dies!
‘The great, the bold, by thousands daily fall,
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‘And endless were the grief to weep for all.
‘Eternal sorrows what avails to shed?
‘Greece honours not with solemn fasts the dead:
‘Enough, when death demands the brave, to pay
‘The tribute of a melancholy day.
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‘One chief with patience to the grave resign'd,
‘Our care devolves on others left behind.
‘Let generous food supplies of strength produce,
‘Let rising spirits flow from sprightly juice,
‘Let their warm heads with scenes of battle glow,
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‘And pour new furies on the feebler foe.
‘Yet a short interval, and none shall dare
‘Expect a second summons to the war;
‘Who waits for that, the dire effect shall find,
‘If trembling in the ships he lags behind.
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‘Embodied, to the battle let us bend,
‘And all at once on haughty Troy descend.’
English (Thomas Hobbes, 1667, ed. Molesworth 1843) (OCR draft) Experimental (English (Thomas Hobbes, 1667, ed. Molesworth 1843)) — 19.215 focus
English (George Chapman, 1611, ed. Hooper 1857) (OCR draft) Experimental (English (George Chapman, 1611, ed. Hooper 1857)) — 19.215 focus
English (William Cowper, 1791, ed. Southey) (OCR draft) Experimental (English (William Cowper, 1791, ed. Southey)) — 19.215 focus
English (F. W. Newman, 1856) (OCR draft) Experimental (English (F. W. Newman, 1856)) — 19 focus

New Alexandria Commentaries

Douglas Frame

example of the contrast between Odysseus’ nóēma and Achilles’ strength in Odysseus’ address to Achilles before the final battle of the Iliad

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contrast between age and wisdom of Odysseus and the strength of Achilles compared with those of Patroclus and Achilles

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Gregory Nagy

The time has come for Achilles to re-enter the war against the Trojans. For this to happen, Agamemnon must first settle with Achilles. But the over-king feels the need to say more than simply to formulate his proposed terms of settlement. His aim is to excuse himself from responsibility for dishonoring Achilles, and the story that he tells in order to achieve this aim is a retelling of a cosmic atē ‘aberration’ that resulted in the Labors of Hēraklēs. Such a retelling, however, is destined to backfire: it will result in further damage to Agamemnon’s own royal status and in further advancement for the heroic prestige of Achilles, for whom Hēraklēs now becomes a perfect model.

draft js image errorHerakles at the tree of the Hesperides, holding three of the golden apples in his left hand. Behind him is the apple tree with the guardian serpent clinging around it. Bronze, 104.5cm (Roman, 1st century C.E.). Image via The British Museum.

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The addressing of Achilles here as phertatos ‘best’ of the Achaeans is most distinctive. See the comment on I.16.021.

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This speech is relevant to the need felt by Achilles to get his equitable share.

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The application of this noun to Zeus as the ultimate ‘divider’ of the portions of war is relevant to the need felt by Achilles to get his equitable share.

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