Homer Iliad 13.231

ed. Robert Southey

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Iliad. Homer. ed. Robert Southey. London. 1847.

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Editions (1)
Ἰλιάς Perseus (Homer. Homeri Opera, Volumes 1-2. Monro, D. B. (David Binning), editor; Allen, Thomas W. (Thomas William), editor. Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1908-1920.) — 13.231 focus
Translations (8)
Iliad Perseus (Homer. The Iliad, Volume 1-2. Murray, A. T. (Augustus Taber), translator. London: William Heinmann; New York: G.P. Putnam's Sons, 1924-1925.) — 13.231 focus
Iliad Perseus (Homer. The Iliad of Homer, rendered into English prose for the use of those who cannot read the original. Butler, Samuel, 1835-1902, translator. London: Longmans, Green, and Co, 1898.) — 13.206 focus
English (Butler, rev. Nagy et al., 2020) (OCR draft) Experimental (English (Butler, rev. Nagy et al., 2020)) — 13.231 focus
To this Poseidon, lord of the earthquake, made answer, “Idomeneus, may he never return from Troy, but remain here for dogs to batten upon, who is this day willfully slack in fighting. [235] Get your armor and go, we must make all haste together if we may be of any use, though we are only two. Even cowards get a share of excellence [ aretē] from companionship, and we two can hold our own with the bravest.”
English (William Cullen Bryant, 1870) (OCR draft) Experimental (English (William Cullen Bryant, 1870)) — 13.231 focus
And Neptune, he who shakes the earth, rejoined:
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"Idomeneus, whoever keeps aloof
From battle, willingly, to-day, may he
Never return from Troy, but be the prey
Of dogs. Take thou thy arms and come with me,
For we must quit ourselves like men, and strive
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To aid our cause, although we be but two.
Great is the strength of feeble arms combined,
And we can combat even with the brave."
So speaking, Neptune turned to share the toils
Of war. Idomeneus, who now had reached
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His princely tent, put on his glorious mail,
And seized two spears, and flew upon his way,
Like lightning grasped by Saturn's son and flung
Quivering above Olympus' gleaming peak,
A sign to mortals, dazzled by the blaze,
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So glittered, as he ran, his brazen mail.
His fellow-warrior, good Meriones,
Met him beside the tent, for he had come
To fetch a brazen javelin thence, and thus
The stout Idomeneus addressed his friend: -
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"O son of Molus, swift Meriones,
Dearest of all my comrades! Why hast thou
Thus left the battle-field? Hast thou a wound, -
A weapon's point that galls thee? Dost thou bring
A message to me? Think not that I sit
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Within my tent an idler; I must fight."
Discreetly did Meriones reply: -
"Idomeneus, whose sovereign counsels rule
The well-armed Cretans, I am come to seek
A spear if one be left within thy tents.
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I broke the one I bore, in hurling it
Against the shield of fierce Deiphobus."
English (Alexander Pope, 1720, ed. Watson, 1857) (OCR draft) Experimental (English (Alexander Pope, 1720, ed. Watson, 1857)) — 13.231 focus
Thus he; and thus the god whose force can make
The solid globe's eternal basis shake:
'Ah! never may he see his native land,
'But feed the vultures on this hateful strand,
'Who seeks ignobly in his ships to stay,
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'Nor dares to combat on this signal day!
'For this, behold! in horrid arms I shine,
'And urge thy soul to rival acts with mine;
'Together let us battle on the plain;
'Two, not the worst; nor e'en this succour vain:
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'Not vain the weakest, if their force unite;
'But ours, the bravest have confess'd in fight.'
English (Thomas Hobbes, 1667, ed. Molesworth 1843) (OCR draft) Experimental (English (Thomas Hobbes, 1667, ed. Molesworth 1843)) — 13.231 focus
English (George Chapman, 1611, ed. Hooper 1857) (OCR draft) Experimental (English (George Chapman, 1611, ed. Hooper 1857)) — 13.231 focus
English (F. W. Newman, 1856) (OCR draft) Experimental (English (F. W. Newman, 1856)) — 13 focus

New Alexandria Commentaries

Douglas Frame

comparison of the openings of the expansions in Nestor’s story with other Homeric verses (the similarity of the expansions to Homeric formulas, here, variations of the formulaic patter esti de tis)

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example of laos as referring to one’s own in contexts where there is a contrast between “leader(s)” and those who “follow”

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analysis of metheinai and contrasting it with loose-wittedness, and its application to Menelaus

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Gregory Nagy

The momentum of the Trojan onslaught led by Hector intensifies here, and the prospects of the Achaeans look grim, almost hopeless. Hector is so successful that he feels tempted, toward the end of Rhapsody 13, to equate himself with immortal gods. Meanwhile, the intensity of the narrative keeps pace, and the poetic virtuosity approaches the sublime.

draft js image errorHector and Polydamas. After a drawing by John Flaxman. Image via Wikimedia Commons.

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Poseidon’s grand entrance here, as he drives his chariot team to the scene of battle, is comparable to other narratives about ceremonial arrivals by divinities. See HC 1§145, with a line drawing of an image painted on an Attic red-figure pyxis lid: unattributed, dated at around 425–375 BCE, Copenhagen, National Museum, 731. The image shows three goddesses—Hērā, Athena, and Aphrodite—arriving at the Judgment of Paris in their chariots drawn by customized chariot teams. Hērā is driving two horses; Athena, two serpents; and Aphrodite, two boyish Erōtes. Figure 10a shows the whole image, while Figure 10b shows a detail from that image.

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On the two warriors who are jointly named here by way of the dual form Aiante, see especially the comment on I.12.335–336.

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As noted in the comment on I.01.091, the meaning of the verb eukhesthai as ‘declare’ has to do with speaking for the record in the form of ‘boasting’ or ‘praying’ or ‘juridically declaring’ (Muellner 1976). According to the speaker here, who is the god Poseidon himself in the guise of Kalkhas, Hector aspires to be immortal by way of ‘boasting’, as expressed by the verb eukhesthai, that he is the son of the god Zeus.

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The reference here to the lesser Ajax shows that the dual Aiante at I.13.046–047 refers in this case to the greater and the lesser Ajax together, not to the greater Ajax and to his bastard brother Teukros. See the comment at I.12.335–336.

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As at I.05.795, the heroes are simply ‘reviving’. As for intimations of a mystical revival from death, there is still more to say: see the comments on I.16.456–457.

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analysis of Janko’s argument that the manuscript reading δ’ἑκάθεν at Il. XIII.107 is “superior” to OCT edition, which replaces δ’ἑκάθεν with δὲ ἑκάς on the basis of its older form and appearance at Il. V.791 (Janko 1990.332-334)

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In the words of the god Poseidon, it is conceded that Agamemnon is aitios ‘responsible’, I.13.111, for having ‘dishonored’ Achilles, I.13.113, as expressed by the verb a-tīmân.

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note that of 150 mentions of Aristarchean diórtōsis that Laum counted (Laum 1928.62) only this one reference refers to an accentual variation [MRBTP: A]

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reference to Aristarchus’ apparent belief that Homer was an Athenian who lived around 1000 BC. See Proclus F a 58-62 Severyns, cf. Life of Homer p. 244.13, p. 247.8 Allen [MRBTP: A]

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In this context, as also at I.13.201, the referents for the dual Aiante are Ajax the greater and Teukros, his bastard brother.

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See the note on I.13.197.

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Here the reference of Aiante shifts away from referring to the pair of Ajax the greater and Teukros. That is because the spotlight on the action shifts from Teukros to Ajax the lesser, so that the lesser Ajax can now become, retroactively, the implied second member of the dual Aiante.

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See anchor comment at I.05.077–078.

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The fear is expressed that the invading Achaean warriors could die nōnumnoi ‘nameless’ at Troy. On the connotations, which can be seen by way of comparing the Hesiodic Works and Days 146–155, see the comment on I.12.079.

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Zeus, in the act of launching his thunderbolt, can be visualized simultaneously in two ways, as here. First, he can be seen as casting his thunderbolt by throwing it with his own divine hand, I.13.243. But, second, he can be seen as casting his divine eye on his target, and his angry looks will thus launch his thunderbolt from within: that is the sense of the expression at I.13.244 here, ‘and his eyes [augai] are most visible [arizēloi]’ (ἀρίζηλοι δέ οἱ αὐγαί). The noun augai, which means literally ‘lights’, refers here to the eyes of Zeus, as also at I.13.837. On the expression the look of Zeus, see the comment on I.19.003–017.

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The lightning made by Zeus is a sēma ‘sign, signal’ that needs to be interpreted.

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In the immediate context, where Meriones is highlighted as therapōn of Idomeneus, only the surface meaning, ‘attendant’, is evident.

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Here the title ‘best of the Achaeans’ is narrowed in scope: Teukros is ‘best of the Achaeans’ in archery.

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Leonard Muellner

in the context of analyzing the only place in the Homeric corpus where a dative noun after eukhesthai is not a god/gods (but Hektor, and this verse among references to his ‘godhead’)

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analysis of eukhesthai in genealogy statements as not used of false or speculative genealogy

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in a list of attestations of genos eukhesthai einai and its transformations

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comment on the etiquette of naming conventions, the omission of one’s own name in geneē-speeches vs. mentioning another’s name in such contexts, and stating one’s own name as a sign of special fame (in the context of analyzing genos eukhesthai einai formulas)

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in the context of comparing Homeric and Vedic poetic media, here regarding the genealogical statement with diuas putra/Dios pais (as in this verse)

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comment on the anomaly of the verse

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example of a common formula with a different half-line following it nine other times (the poetics of the battle-books as promoting the preservation of archaisms and stimulating the innovatory usage of a half of a formula outside its conventional context)

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analysis of eukhesthai in its concrete sense ‘say a prayer’ with the adverb megala, in the context of postulating ‘say (in a functionally marked context)’ as antecedent of ‘pray’ (eukhesthai in sacral contexts)

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Richard Martin

The exchange between the disguised Poseidon and Idomeneus illustrates the "recalled-speech" strategy in flyting. To the god's challenge, "Where are now the threats gone, with which the sons of the Achaeans threatened Trojans?" (13.219-20), Idomeneus replies, "No man is now responsible, as much as I know. For we all know how to war" (13.222-23). The first speech fits the pattern already seen in Achilles' address to the Myrmidons (16.200-201), and the reply attempts to answer the implied contrast between former boasts and present immobility, as if Idomeneus knows the full pattern of such flyting speeches even though it is not explicit here. This comparison shows that Agamemnon's speech in Book 19 answering a past rebuke (rather than a rebuke in the present that refers to the past) is a variation on the conventional flyting pattern—and that the neikos words still rankle in Agamemnon's mind (Martin 1993:73-74).

For the broader analysis of the flyting genre and the recalled-speech strategy, see the comment on Iliad 4.336-421.

References

Martin, R. P. 1993. The Language of Heroes: Speech and Performance in the Iliad. Ithaca.

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