Homer Iliad 9.417

Samuel Butler (Translator)

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To the rest of you, then, I say, ‘Go home, for you will not take Ilion.’ Zeus of the wide brows [420] has held his hand over her to protect her, and her people have taken heart. 421 But you must go back to the chieftains of the Achaeans 422 and give them this message—for that is the privilege of the Elders— 423 that they should devise in their thoughts another plan [ mētis] that is better 424 and that will rescue their ships and the host of the Achaeans [425] who are at the hollow ships. For this one [this mētis], 426 which they now devised during the time of my anger, does not suffice. As for Phoenix, let him sleep here that he may sail with me in the morning if he so will. But I will not take him by force.”

Iliad. Homer. Samuel Butler (Translator). London. 1898.

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Editions (1)
Ἰλιάς Perseus (Homer. Homeri Opera, Volumes 1-2. Monro, D. B. (David Binning), editor; Allen, Thomas W. (Thomas William), editor. Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1908-1920.) — 9.417 focus
καὶ δʼ ἂν τοῖς ἄλλοισιν ἐγὼ παραμυθησαίμην
οἴκαδʼ ἀποπλείειν, ἐπεὶ οὐκέτι δήετε τέκμωρ
Ἰλίου αἰπεινῆς· μάλα γάρ ἑθεν εὐρύοπα Ζεὺς
χεῖρα ἑὴν ὑπερέσχε, τεθαρσήκασι δὲ λαοί.
420
ἀλλʼ ὑμεῖς μὲν ἰόντες ἀριστήεσσιν Ἀχαιῶν
ἀγγελίην ἀπόφασθε· τὸ γὰρ γέρας ἐστὶ γερόντων·
ὄφρʼ ἄλλην φράζωνται ἐνὶ φρεσὶ μῆτιν ἀμείνω,
ἥ κέ σφιν νῆάς τε σαῷ καὶ λαὸν Ἀχαιῶν
νηυσὶν ἔπι γλαφυρῇς, ἐπεὶ οὔ σφισιν ἥδέ γʼ ἑτοίμη
425
ἣν νῦν ἐφράσσαντο ἐμεῦ ἀπομηνίσαντος·
Φοῖνιξ δʼ αὖθι παρʼ ἄμμι μένων κατακοιμηθήτω,
ὄφρά μοι ἐν νήεσσι φίλην ἐς πατρίδʼ ἕπηται
αὔριον ἢν ἐθέλῃσιν· ἀνάγκῃ δʼ οὔ τί μιν ἄξω.
Translations (8)
Iliad Perseus (Homer. The Iliad, Volume 1-2. Murray, A. T. (Augustus Taber), translator. London: William Heinmann; New York: G.P. Putnam's Sons, 1924-1925.) — 9.417 focus
Iliad Perseus (Homer. The Iliad of Homer, rendered into English prose for the use of those who cannot read the original. Butler, Samuel, 1835-1902, translator. London: Longmans, Green, and Co, 1898.) — 9.334 focus
English (William Cullen Bryant, 1870) (OCR draft) Experimental (English (William Cullen Bryant, 1870)) — 9.417 focus
And now I counsel all to sail for home,
For never will ye see the overthrow
Of lofty Ilium. Jove the Thunderer
520
Stretches his great hand o'er her, and her sons
Take courage. Go ye now, and take with you
This message to the princes of the Greeks, —
As is the office of an embassy, —
And bid them meditate some wiser plan
525
To save their galleys and the host of Greeks
Within the hollow barks. The plan which brought
You hither cannot serve you while I keep
My anger unappeased. Let Phœnix stay
To pass the night with us, that he may sail
530
To-morrow, if it please him, to the land
We love; I take him not against his will."
He ceased; and silent were the ambassadors,
Astonished at his passionate words. At last
Phœnix, the aged knight, with many tears
535
And sighs, took up the word, in grief and fear
Lest Hector should destroy the Grecian fleet:
"Illustrious son of Peleus, if indeed
Thou wilt return, nor carest to repel
From our swift galleys the consuming fire,
540
Because thou art offended, how shall I,
Dear child, remain without thee? When at first
Peleus, the aged knight, from Phthia sent
Thee, yet a boy, to Agamemnon's aid,
Unskilled as then thou wert in cruel war,
545
And martial councils, - where men also gain
A great renown, - he sent me with thee, charged
To teach thee both, that so thou might'st become
In words an orator, in warlike deeds
An actor. Therefore, my beloved child,
550
Not willingly shall I remain behind;
Not even though a god should promise me
That, overcoming the decays of age,
I might become a beardless youth again,
As when from Hellas and its companies
555
Of lovely maids I came a fugitive,
And left Amyntor, son of Ormenus, -
My father, - angry with me for the sake
Of a fair-tressèd wanton, whom he loved,
Treating my mother basely. To my knees
560
My mother came and prayed me ceaselessly,
First, to possess the woman, that she then
Might loathe the elder one; and I obeyed.
My father knew it, and with many a curse
Invoked the hateful furies to forbid
565
That any child who owed his birth to me
Should ever sit upon his knees. The gods-
The Jove of Hades and dread Proserpine -
Confirmed his curse. I could not brook to dwell
Within my father's palace while he thus
570
Was wroth with me. My kindred and my friends
Came round me, and besought me to remain,
And stayed beside me.
English (Alexander Pope, 1720, ed. Watson, 1857) (OCR draft) Experimental (English (Alexander Pope, 1720, ed. Watson, 1857)) — 9.417 focus
'Go then, to Greece report our fix'd design:
'Bid all your councils, all your armies join,
545
'Let all your forces, all your arts conspire,
'To save the ships, the troops, the chiefs, from fire.
'One stratagem has fail'd, and others will:
'Ye find Achilles is unconquer'd still.
'Go then: digest my message as ye may:
550
'But here this night let reverend Phoenix stay:
'His tedious toils and hoary hairs demand
'A peaceful death in Phthia's friendly land.
'But whether he remain, or sail with me,
'His age be sacred, and his will be free.'
555
English (Thomas Hobbes, 1667, ed. Molesworth 1843) (OCR draft) Experimental (English (Thomas Hobbes, 1667, ed. Molesworth 1843)) — 9.417 focus
English (George Chapman, 1611, ed. Hooper 1857) (OCR draft) Experimental (English (George Chapman, 1611, ed. Hooper 1857)) — 9.417 focus
English (William Cowper, 1791, ed. Southey) (OCR draft) Experimental (English (William Cowper, 1791, ed. Southey)) — 9.417 focus
English (F. W. Newman, 1856) (OCR draft) Experimental (English (F. W. Newman, 1856)) — 9 focus

New Alexandria Commentaries

Douglas Frame

analysis of this passage and I.09.009-078 (assemblies of the Trojans and of the Achaeans, respectively) as an instance of “Zielinski’s law”

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Gregory Nagy

The Master Narrator now approaches what can surely be seen as the highest point so far in the narrative arc of the Homeric Iliad. Achilles has not spoken since Rhapsody 1. Now, in Rhapsody 9, he will speak again. And what he says will define what can and cannot happen in the rest of the Iliad.

draft js image errorThe embassy to Achilles, featuring Phoenix and Odysseus in front of Achilles. Attic red-figure hydra, circa 480 BCE. Public domain image via Wikimedia Commons.

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After the intervening simile, at I.09.004–008, of the storm at sea, the penthos ‘grief’ felt by the Achaeans at I.09.003 is described further: this grief, it is said at I.09.008, is felt by them inside their collective ‘heart’, as expressed by thūmos. But then, at I.09.009, the penthos ‘grief’ of I.09.003 is now reconfigured as the akhos ‘grief’ felt by the leader of the Achaeans, Agamemnon, in his individuated ‘heart’, as expressed this time by ētor, which is a partial synonym of thūmos. In this ring-composition, the penthos ‘grief’ of verse 3 comes full circle with the synonym akhos ‘grief’ of verse 9, but the circle has in the meantime rotated the perspective from a collective to an individuated ‘heart’.

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