Sophocles Electra 251cont2

Robert Potter (Translator)

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see him in my father's robes
Array'd, and pouring to the household gods
Libations on the spot where his curs'd hand
Shed the king's blood. And (oh that blackest stain !)
I see the murderer in my father's bed
With my abandon'd mother, if the name
255
Of mother be her due, who shares this bed
255
With him, unblushing with this man of blood
255
Cohabits, and no vengeful Fury fears;
255
But, as exulting in her horrid deeds,
255
Oft as the month leads round the welcome day
In which my father by her wiles she slew,
She forms the festal dance, and to the gods,
As guardians of her house, the victims slays.

Electra. Sophocles. Robert Potter (Translator). London. 1820.

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Editions (2)
Greek (Lewis Campbell, 1879) (OCR draft) Experimental (Greek (Lewis Campbell, 1879)) — 251 focus
ἐγὼ μέν, ὦ παῖ, καὶ τὸ σὸν σπεύδουσ᾽ ἅμα
καὶ τοὐμὸν αὐτῆς ἦλθον· εἰ δὲ μὴ καλῶς
λέγω, σὺ νίκα· σοὶ γὰρ ἐψόμεσθ᾽ ἅμα.
Greek (F. Storr, 1912) (OCR draft) Experimental (Greek (F. Storr, 1912)) — 251-471 focus
Translations (4)
English (Lewis Campbell, 1906) (OCR draft) Experimental (English (Lewis Campbell, 1906)) — 251 focus
No more! I see approaching from the house
Thy sister by both parents of thy blood,
Chrysothemis; in her hand an offering,
Such as old custom yields to those below.
German (J. J. C. Donner, 1875; OCR review) (OCR draft) Experimental (German (J. J. C. Donner, 1875; OCR review)) — 251 focus
Ich bin gekommen, Tochter, um dein Wohl zugleich
Und meins bekümmert. Sprech' ich denn das Rechte nicht,
So möge dein Wort gelten; denn dir folgen wir.
245
English (Thomas Francklin, 1758–1759) (OCR draft) Experimental (English (Thomas Francklin, 1758–1759)) — 251 focus
He boasts a noble nature, and will ne'er
Forget his friends : be confident.
English (Sir Richard Jebb, 1904) (OCR draft) Experimental (English (Sir Richard Jebb, 1904)) — 251-470 focus

Commentary

Commentary (R. C. Jebb) (OCR draft) (Commentary (R. C. Jebb))

mvp-comment-146-1 πολλοῖσι θρήνοις 1

mvp-comment-147-1 ἀλλὰ … γὰρ 2

mvp-comment-148-1 ἥτις εὐγενὴς γυνή 3

mvp-comment-149-1 πατρῷα … πήματα 4

mvp-comment-150-1 κατ’ εὐφρόνην 5

mvp-comment-150-2 θάλλοντα 6

mvp-comment-151-1 ᾗ 7

mvp-comment-151-2 πρῶτα μὲν … εἶτα … ἔπειτα 8 ᾗ 9

mvp-comment-151-3 τὰ μητρὸς 10

mvp-comment-151-4 ἔχθιστα συμβέβηκεν 11

mvp-comment-152-1 κἀκ τῶνδ’ ἄρχομαι 12

mvp-comment-153-1 λαβεῖν … τὸ τητᾶσθαι 13

mvp-comment-154-1 ποίας 14 δοκεῖς 15

mvp-comment-155-1 ἴδω 16 εἰσίδω δ’ 17 ἴδω δὲ 18

mvp-comment-155-2 μὲν 19

mvp-comment-156-1 ἐσθήματα 20

mvp-comment-156-2 ἐκείνῳ 21

mvp-comment-156-3 παρεστίους … λοιβάς 22 ἔνθ’ ἐκεῖνον ὤλεσεν 23

mvp-comment-156-4 Acc. to Homer. Hymn. 29. 4 ff., feasts began and ended with libations to Hestia:

οὐ γὰρ ἄτερ σοῦ
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εἰλαπίναι θνητοῖσιν, ἵν’ οὐ πρώτῃ πυμάτῃ τε
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Ἱστίῃ ἀρχόμενος σπένδει μελιηδέα οἶνον
. Soph. fr. 658
<*> πρῷρα λοιβῆς Ἑστία
. Other divinities, including Zeus
σωτήρ
, were similarly honoured; then the paean was sung, and the
πότος
began ( Plat. Symp.p. 176 A).

mvp-comment-157-1 τούτων 24

mvp-comment-158-1 αὐτοέντην 25

mvp-comment-158-2 Brunck first adopted αὐτοέντην 26 αὐτοφόντην 27

mvp-comment-158-3 ἡμὶν 28

mvp-comment-159-1 ταλαίνῃ 29

mvp-comment-160-1 ταύτην … τῷδε 30

mvp-comment-161-1 μιάστορι 31 Ἐρινὺν 32

mvp-comment-162-1 ἐγγελῶσα τοῖς ποιουμένοις 33

mvp-comment-163-1 εὑροῦς’ 34 τότε 35

mvp-comment-163-2 The conjecture φρουροῦς’ 36 τηροῦς’ 37

mvp-comment-164-1 χοροὺς ἵστησι 38

mvp-comment-164-2 μηλοσφαγεῖ … ἱερὰ 39

mvp-comment-164-3 ἔμμην’ ἱερά 40

mvp-comment-164-4 τοῖς σωτηρίοις 41

mvp-comment-164-5 Argive tradition placed Agamemnon's death on the 13th of Gamelion (about the end of January). So said ‘the Argive historians’ (

οἱ Ἀργολικοὶ συγγραφεῖς
),— according to an Argive writer named Deinias, who lived about 225 B.C. (Schol. here: Müller, Frag. Hist. vol. III. p. 25.) Possibly, then, the idea of Clytaemnestra's hideous festival may have been suggested to the poet by some actual commemoration of the event in Argolis. There was a cult of Agamemnon in various places,—notably in Laconia. (Cp. Roscher's Lexicon, p. 96.)

mvp-comment-165-1 ἡ δύσμορος 42 κατὰ στέγας 43

mvp-comment-166-1 τέτηκα 44

mvp-comment-166-2 πατρὸς 45

mvp-comment-166-3 The

δαίς
is the feast which, in Homeric fashion ( Il. 1. 467 ), would follow the sacrifice (281). Acc. to Eustathius p. 1507. 61 (on Hom. Od. 4. 524 ff.),
Ἀγαμεμνόνειος δαὶς
(or
τράπεζα
) was a proverb
ἐπὶ τῶν ἐπ’ ὀλέθρῳ εὐωχουμένων
. The poet may mean that Clytaemnestra called the festival
Ἀγαμεμνόνειος δαίς
, in direct allusion to
δεῖπνα ἄρρητα
(203): and this would give a special point to
ἐγγελῶσα
(277). Cp. Eur. Or. 1008
τά τ’ ἐπώνυμα δεῖπνα Θυέστου
. But the words do not necessarily imply more than that she called it
Ἀγαμεμνόνεια
.

mvp-comment-167-1 αὐτὴ πρὸς αὑτήν 46 αὑτήν 47

mvp-comment-167-2 κλαῦσαι 48

mvp-comment-167-3 ἡδονὴν φέρει 49

mvp-comment-168-1 ἡ λόγοισι γενναία 50

mvp-comment-169-1 φωνοῦσα 51

mvp-comment-170-1 δύσθεον 52

mvp-comment-170-2 μίσημα 53

mvp-comment-170-3 σοὶ μόνῃ 54

mvp-comment-170-4 τέθνηκεν 55

mvp-comment-170-5 ἐν πένθει 56

mvp-comment-171-1 ἐκ γόων 57

mvp-comment-171-2 οἱ κάτω θεοί 58

mvp-comment-172-1 τάδ’ 59

mvp-comment-172-2 ἥξοντ’ Ὀρέστην 60

mvp-comment-173-1 παραστᾶς’ 61

mvp-comment-174-1 ἥτις 62

mvp-comment-174-2 ὑπεξέθου 63

mvp-comment-175-1 ἀλλ’ ἴσθι τοι τείσουσά γ’ 64

mvp-comment-176-1 ὑλακτεῖ 65

mvp-comment-176-2 σὺν 66

mvp-comment-176-3 πέλας 67 παρών 68

mvp-comment-176-4 301 The adv. πάντα 69

mvp-comment-176-5 ἄναλκις 70

mvp-comment-176-6 ἡ πᾶσα βλάβη 71

mvp-comment-177-1 σὺν γυναιξὶ 72

mvp-comment-177-2 τὰς μάχας 73

mvp-comment-178-1 ἐφήξειν 74

mvp-comment-179-1 μέλλων … δρᾶν τι 75

mvp-comment-179-2 τὰς οὔσας τε … καὶ τὰς ἀπούσας 76

mvp-comment-179-3 μου 77 μοι 78

mvp-comment-179-4 διέφθορεν 79

mvp-comment-180-1 σωφρονεῖν 80 εὐσεβεῖν 81

mvp-comment-180-2 ἔν τοι κακοῖς 82

mvp-comment-180-3 πολλή )στ’ ἀνάγκη 83 κἀπιτηδεύειν κακά 84

mvp-comment-180-4 I place only a comma, not a colon, after πάρεστιν 85

mvp-comment-181-1 ὄντος … βεβῶτος 86

mvp-comment-182-1 ἦ κάρτα 87

mvp-comment-182-2 θυραῖον 88

mvp-comment-182-3 οἰχνεῖν 89

mvp-comment-182-4 ἀγροῖσι 90

mvp-comment-182-5 τυγχάνει 91

mvp-comment-183-1 ἦ κἂν … ἱκοίμην 92 ἦ τ<*>ν 93 ἦ δἂν 94

mvp-comment-183-2 ἐς λόγους τοὺς σοὺς ἱκοίμην 95

mvp-comment-184-1 ὡς νῦν 96 ὥς νυν 97

mvp-comment-184-2 ἱστόρει· τί σοι φίλον 98 τό 99 τά 100

mvp-comment-184-3 With the other punctuation, ἱστόρει τί σοι φίλον 101

mvp-comment-185-1 καὶ δὴ 102

mvp-comment-185-2 τοῦ κασιγνήτου τί φής 103

mvp-comment-185-3 ἥξοντος 104 ἢ μέλλοντος 105

mvp-comment-186-1 φησίν γε 106

mvp-comment-186-2 ποεῖ 107

mvp-comment-187-1 καὶ μὴν ἔγωγ’ 108 γε 109

mvp-comment-187-2 οὐκ ὄκνῳ 110

mvp-comment-188-1 ἀρκεῖν 111

mvp-comment-189-1 ἐπεί 112

mvp-comment-189-2 μακρὰν 113

mvp-comment-189-3 324 Here, as in 316, νῦν 114 νυν 115

mvp-comment-189-4 δόμων 116 φέρουσαν 117

mvp-comment-190-1 ὅμαιμον 118

mvp-comment-190-2 φύσιν 119

mvp-comment-191-1 Χρυσόθεμιν 120

mvp-comment-192-1 οἷα 121 νομίζεται 122

mvp-comment-193-1 πρὸς θυρῶνος ἐξόδοις 123 φωνεῖς 124 ἐλθοῦσα 125 αὖ 126

mvp-comment-193-2 330 For the absence of caesura, cp. Ph. 101 n.

mvp-comment-194-1 θυμῷ … χαρίζεσθαι 127

mvp-comment-195-1 καίτοι τοσοῦτόν γ’ οἶδα 128

mvp-comment-195-2 κἀμαυτήν, ὅτι 129

mvp-comment-195-3 333 f. For the repeated ἄν 130

mvp-comment-195-4 οἶ) αὐτοῖς φρονῶ 131

mvp-comment-196-1 ὑφειμένῃ 132 πλεῖν 133

mvp-comment-196-2 For the image, cp. Eur. Med. 524

ἄκροισι λαίφους κρασπέδοις
(with close-reefed sails)
ὑπεκφυγεῖν
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τὴν σὴν στόμαργον, ὦ γύναι, γλωσσαλγίαν
: Ar. Ran. 997
ἀλλ’ ὅπως, ὦ γεννάδα
, |
μὴ πρὸς ὀργὴν ἀντιλέξεις
, |
ἀλλὰ συστείλας, ἄκροισι
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χρώμενος τοῖς ἱστίοις κ.τ.λ.
: and conversely Soph. Ant. 715
ναὸς ὅστις ἐγκρατῆ πόδα
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τείνας ὑπείκει μηδέν
. Ovid Epist. 1. 8. 71
moderatius opta, | Et voti, quaeso, contrahe vela tui.
Shakesp. Henry VI., pt. iii, act 3 sc. 3. 5
‘Now Margaret | Must strike her sail, and learn awhile to serve | Where kings command.’

mvp-comment-197-1 καὶ μὴ δοκεῖν 134

mvp-comment-198-1 τοιαῦτα δ’ ἄλλα 135 ἀλλὰ 136 ἄλλα 137

mvp-comment-199-1 καίτοι τὸ μὲν δίκαιον 138

mvp-comment-199-2 κρίνεις 139

mvp-comment-199-3 εἰ … με δεῖ 140

mvp-comment-199-4 ἐλευθέραν 141

mvp-comment-199-5 ζῆν 142

mvp-comment-199-6 πάντ’ 143

mvp-comment-199-7 ἀκουστέα 144

mvp-comment-200-1 δεινόν γε 145

mvp-comment-201-1 τῆς … τικτούσης 146

mvp-comment-201-2 μέλειν 147

mvp-comment-202-1 τἀμὰ νουθετήματα 148

mvp-comment-202-2 κείνης διδακτά 149

mvp-comment-202-3 ἐκ σαυτῆς 150

mvp-comment-203-1 The text, which has been suspected (cr. n.), is sound; but the train of thought is somewhat obscured by compression.

mvp-comment-203-2 ‘You forget your father, and care only for your mother. All your counsels to me come from her. Then (

ἔπειτα
),—that being so,—give up the attempt at a compromise. Make a choice (
ἑλοῦ γε
). You can be imprudent (
φρονεῖν κακῶς
),—as you say that I am,—and loyal to your dead father. Or you can be prudent (
φρονοῦσα
), and forgetful of him,—as you actually are; you who (
ἥτις
) say, indeed, that you would show your hatred of the murderers if you could; and yet, when I do resist them, you try to turn me from my purpose. You merely add the shame of cowardice to our woes.’

mvp-comment-203-3 ἔπειθ’ 151

mvp-comment-203-4 ἑλοῦ γε 152

mvp-comment-203-5 φρονεῖν κακῶς 153

mvp-comment-203-6 Other explanations are:—(1) ‘Choose to be thought either lost to right feeling, or, if you have such feeling, then at least forgetful of your duty.’ (2) ‘Choose to seem either unintelligent (if you are merely the blind instrument of our rulers); or, if you act with clear understanding (

φρονοῦσα
),—thinking to benefit me,—at least forgetful of your father.’ Both these views assume that the question is merely between two interpretations which might be placed on the present conduct of Chrysothemis. But Electra is putting the dilemma between imprudent loyalty and prudent disloyalty.

mvp-comment-204-1 τῶν φίλων 154

mvp-comment-205-1 ἥτις 155 φρονοῦσα 156 μῖσος 157

mvp-comment-206-1 πάντα 158

mvp-comment-206-2 τιμωρουμένης 159

mvp-comment-207-1 οὔτε … τε 160

mvp-comment-207-2 τήν τε δρῶσαν 161

mvp-comment-208-1 πρὸς κακοῖσι 162

mvp-comment-208-2 δειλίαν ἔχει 163

mvp-comment-209-1 ἐπεὶ 164

mvp-comment-209-2 ἢ μάθ’ ἐξ ἐμοῦ 165

mvp-comment-210-1 ἐπαρκούντως 166

mvp-comment-211-1 προσάπτειν 167

mvp-comment-211-2 εἴ τις ἔστ’ ἐκεῖ χάρις 168

mvp-comment-212-1 ἡμὶν 169 ξύνει 170

mvp-comment-213-1 τὰ σὰ … δῶῤ 171

mvp-comment-213-2 ἐφ’ οἶσι 172

mvp-comment-213-3 χλιδᾷς 173

mvp-comment-214-1 ὑπεικάθοιμι 174

mvp-comment-214-2 πλουσία 175

mvp-comment-214-3 περιρρείτω 176

Commentary (Lewis Campbell, 1879) (OCR draft) (Commentary (Lewis Campbell, 1879)) focus

254-255. mvp-comment-146-1 I am ashamed of seeming to you, as I must seem, to be too impatient in multiplying lamentations.' δοκῶ is indicative.

258. mvp-comment-147-1 πατρῷ᾽ ὁρῶσα πήματ'] 'Seeing woful things performed against her sire.' Electra's filial affection for Agamemnon is kept prominently before us as her chief motive; and every insult to his memory, including her own sufferings, is regarded by her as part of the wrong done to him. πατρῷα is at first general, but in the antecedent to a it becomes individual, -' of my father.'

260. mvp-comment-148-1 θάλλοντα .. καταφθίνονθ'] “Not lessening but increasing.'

260-261. mvp-comment-149-1 ᾖ.. συμβέβηκεν] 'Since, first of all, I have found in my own mother the deepest cause for hatred.' This (Paley, etc.) is better than my mother is my enemy.'

264. mvp-comment-150-1 κἀκ τῶνδ᾽ ἄρχομαι] ‘And I am in subjection to them. Cp. O. C. 67, ἐκ τοῦ κατ᾿ ἄστυ βασιλέως τάδ' ἄρχεται.

270. mvp-comment-151-1 ἔνθ᾽ ἐκεῖνον ὤλεσεν] Here again Sophocles seems to follow the account that is given in the fourth book of the Odyssey, ll. 529 foll., according to which Aegisthus murdered Agamemnon at or after a banquet. Hence he is said to have destroyed him beside the hearth. Cp. infr. 1495.

271-274. mvp-comment-152-1 Further, when I see their crowning insult, when I see, forsooth, the author of his death reclining on my father's couch, beside my wretched mother, if so I must call this woman, when cohabiting with him!' The clause τὸν αὐτοφόντην κ.τ.λ. is in the same construction with ὕβριν, governed by ἴδω. ἡμίν is ethical dative, and has a sarcastic force; i.e. That is what I am compelled to look upon.' The participle (κείμενον) which should have gone with ἐν κοίτῃ is absorbed and resumed in συγκοιμωμένην.