Plutarch, Quaestiones Romanae, ed. William W. Goodwin, 62

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Question 62.

Why among them that were called Feciales (in Greek, peace-makers) was he that was named Pater Patratus accounted the chiefest? But this must be one who hath his father living, and children of his own; and he hath even at this time a certain privilege and trust, for the Praetors commit to those men’s trust the persons of those who, by reason of comeliness and beauty, stand in need of an exact and chaste guardianship.

Solution. Is this the reason, that they must be such whose children reverence them, and who reverence their parents? Or doth the name itself suggest a reason? For patratum will have a thing to be complete and finished; for he whose lot it is to be a father whilst his father liveth is (as it were) perfecter than others. Or is it that he ought to be overseer of oaths and peace, and (according to Homer) to see before and behind? He is such a one especially, who hath a son for whom he consults, and a father with whom he consults.

Quaestiones Romanae. Plutarch. ed. William W. Goodwin. Boston. 1874.

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Roman Questions (English) (Plutarch. Plutarch's Morals, Vol. II. Goodwin, William W., editor; Chauncy, Isaac translator. Boston: Little, Brown, and Company; Cambridge: Press of John Wilson and Son, 1874.)

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Αἴτια Ῥωμαϊκά Perseus (Plutarch. Moralia, Vol. IV. Babbitt, Frank Cole, editor. Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press; London: William Heinemann Ltd., 1936 (printing).) — 62 focus

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διὰ τί τῶν λεγομένων Φιτιαλέων, ¹ Ἑλληνιστὶ δʼ οἷον εἰρηνοποιῶν καὶ ² σπονδοφόρων, ὁ καλούμενος πάτερ πατρᾶτος ἐνομίζετο μέγιστος; ἔστι δʼ οὗτος, ᾧ πατὴρ ζῇ καὶ παῖδες εἰσὶν ἔχει δὲ καὶ νῦν προνομίαν τινὰ καὶ πίστιν οἱ γάρ στρατηγοὶ τὰ διʼ εὐμορφίαν καὶ ὥραν ἐπιμελοῦς δεόμενα καὶ σώφρονος φυλακῆς σώματα τούτοις παρακατατίθενται.

πότερον ὅτι τὸ αἰδεῖσθαι τοὺς παῖδας αὐτοῖς καὶ τὸ φοβεῖσθαι τοὺς πατέρας πρόσεστιν· ἢ τοὔνομα τὴν αἰτίαν ὑπαγορεύει; βούλεται γὰρ εἶναι τὸ πατρᾶτον οἱονεὶ συμπεπερασμένον καὶ πεπερατωμένον, ὡς τελειοτέρου τῶν ἄλλων ὄντος 279c συμβέβηκε πατέρα κεκτημένῳ πατρὶ γενέσθαι.

ἢ δεῖ τὸν ὅρκων καὶ εἰρήνης προιστάμενον ἅμα πρόσω καὶ ὀπίσω³ καθʼ Ὅμηρον ὁρᾶν; εἴη δʼ ἂν μάλιστα τοιοῦτος, ᾧ παῖς ἔστιν ὑπὲρ οὗ βουλεύεται, καὶ πατὴρ μεθʼ οὗ βουλεύεται.

Κεφαλαίων καταγραφή Ῥωμαϊκά Perseus (Plutarch. Plutarchi Chaeronensis Moralia, Vol IΙ. Vernardakēs, Grēgorios N., editor. Leipzig: Teubner, 1889.) — 62 focus

[62] διὰ τί τῶν λεγομένων Φιτιαλέων, ¹ Ἑλληνιστὶ δʼ οἷον εἰρηνοποιῶν σπονδοφόρων, ὁ καλούμενος πάτερ πατρᾶτος ἐνομίζετο μέγιστος (ἔστι δʼ οὗτος, ᾧ πατὴρ ζῇ καὶ παῖδες εἰσίν ἔχει δὲ καὶ νῦν 25 προνομίαν τινὰ καὶ πίστιν· οἱ γὰρ στρατηγοὶ τὰ διʼ εὐμορφίαν καὶ ὥραν ἐπιμελοῦς δεόμενα καὶ σώφρονος φυλακῆς σώματα τούτοις παρακατατίθενται); πότερον ὅτι τὸ αἰδεῖσθαι τοὺς παῖδας αὐτοῖς καὶ τὸ φοβεῖσθαι τοὺς πατέρας πρόσεστιν· ἢ τοὔνομα τὴν αἰτίαν ὑπαγορεύει; βούλεται γὰρ εἶναι τὸ πατρᾶτον οἱονεὶ συμπεπερασμένον καὶ πεπερατωμένον, ὡς τελειοτέρου 5 τῶν ἄλλων ὄντος ᾧ συμβέβηκε πατέρα 279c κεκτημένῳ πατρὶ γενέσθαι. ἢ δεῖ τὸν ὅρκων καὶ εἰρήνης προϊστάμενον ἅμα πρόσω καὶ ὀπίσω² καθʼ Ὅμηρον ὁρᾶν; εἴη δʼ ἂν μάλιστα τοιοῦτος, ᾧ παῖς ἔστιν ὑπὲρ οὗ βουλεύεται, καὶ πατὴρ μεθʼ οὗ 10 βουλεύεται.

Translations (1)

The Roman Questions Perseus (Plutarch. Moralia, Vol. IV. Babbitt, Frank Cole, translator. Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press; London: William Heinemann Ltd., 1936 (printing).) — 62 focus

[62] Why, among those called Fetiales, or, as we should say in Greek, peace-makers or treaty-bringers, was he who was called pater patratus considered the chief? The pater patratus¹ is a man whose father is still alive and who has children; even now he possesses a certain preferment and confidence, for the praetors entrust to him any wards whose beauty and youth require a careful and discreet guardianship.

Is it because there attaches to these men respect for their children and reverence for their fathers?

Or does the name suggest the reason? For patratus means, as it were, completed or perfected, since he to whose lot it has fallen to become a father while he still has a father is more perfect than other men.

Or should the man who presides over oaths and treaties of peace be, in the words of Homer,² one looking before and after? Such a man above all others would be he that has a son to plan for and a father to plan with.

Plutarch Quaestiones Romanae 62

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