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Of Demaratus.

Demaratus, — when Orontes talked very roughly to him, and one said, Demaratus, Orontes uses you very roughly, — replied, I have no reason to be angry, for those that speak to please do the mischief, not those that talk out of malice. To one enquiring why they disgrace those that lose their shields in a battle and not those that lose their head-pieces or breastplates, he answered, Because these serve for their private safety only, but their shield for the common defence and strength of the whole army. Hearing one play upon the harp, he said, The man seems to play the fool well. In a certain assembly, when he was asked whether he held his tongue because he was a fool or for want of words, he replied, A fool cannot hold his tongue. When one asked him why being king he fled Sparta, he answered, Because the laws rule there. A Persian having by many presents enticed the boy that he loved from him, and saying, Spartan, I have caught your love; No, faith, he answered, but you have bought him. One having revolted from the king of Persia, and by Demaratus’s persuasion returning again to his obedience, and the king designing his death, Demaratus said: It is dishonorable, O king, whilst he was an enemy not to be able to punish him for his revolt, and to kill him now he is a friend. To a parasite of the king that often jeered him about his exile he said: Sir, I will not fight you, for you have lost your post in life.¹

Apophthegmata Laconica. Plutarch. ed. William W. Goodwin. Boston. 1874.

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Laconic Apophthegms; or Remarkable Sayings of the Spartans. (English) (Plutarch. Plutarch's Morals, Vol. I. Goodwin, William W., editor; unknown, translator. Boston: Little, Brown, and Company; Cambridge: Press of John Wilson and Son, 1874.)

Editions (2)

Ἀποφθέγματα Λακωνικά Perseus (Plutarch. Moralia, Vol. III. Babbitt, Frank Cole, editor. Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press; London: William Heinemann Ltd., 1931 (printing).) — 28 focus

Δημαράτου

[1] Δημάρατος,¹ Ὀρόντου πρὸς αὐτὸν σκληρότερον 220a ὁμιλήσαντος καὶ εἰπόντος τινός, σκληρῶς σοι κέχρηται Ὀρόντης, ὦ Δημάρατε, οὐδὲν ἥμαρτεν εἰς ἐμέ, εἶπεν οἱ γὰρ πρὸς χάριν ὁμιλοῦντες βλάπτουσιν, οὐχ οἱ μετὰ ἀπεχθείας.

[2] ἐρωτήσαντος δέ τινος διὰ τί τοὺς μὲν τὰς ἀσπίδας παρʼ αὐτοῖς ἀποβαλόντας ἀτιμοῦσι, τοὺς δὲ τὰ κράνη καὶ τοὺς θώρακας οὐκέτι, ὅτι, ἔφη, ταῦτα μὲν ἑαυτῶν χάριν περιτίθενται, τὴν δὲ ἀσπίδα τῆς κοινῆς τάξεως ἕνεκα.

[3] Ψάλτου δὲ ἀκροώμενος, οὐ κακῶς, εἶπε, φαίνεταί μοι φλυαρεῖν.

[4] ἐν δέ τινι συνεδρίῳ ἐρωτώμενος πότερον διὰ 220b μωρίαν ἢ διʼ ἀπορίαν λόγων σιωπᾷ, ἀλλʼ ὅ γε μωρὸς οὐκ ἂν δύναιτο σιγᾶν, ἔφη.

[5] πυθομένου δέ τινος διὰ τί φεύγει τὴν Σπάρτην βασιλεὺς ὤν, ὅτι, ἔφη, κρείττονες αὐτῆς² οἱ νόμοι εἰσί.

[6] τῶν δὲ Περσῶν τινος διὰ τὸ συνεχὲς τῆς δωροδοκίας τὸν ἐρώμενον αὐτοῦ ἀπαγαγόντος καὶ λέγοντος, ὦ Λάκων, τεθήρευκά σου τὸν ἐρώμενον, μὰ τοὺς θεούς, ἔφη, οὐχὶ σύ γε, ἀλλʼ ἠγόρακας.

[7] ἀποστάντος δέ τινος τῶν Περσῶν τοῦ βασιλέως καὶ μεταπεισθέντος ὑπὸ Δημαράτου ἐπανελθεῖν καὶ μέλλοντος τοῦ βασιλέως τὸν Πέρσην διαχειρίζεσθαι, αἰσχρόν, ἔφη, ὦ βασιλεῦ, ὅτε μὲν ἐχθρὸς ἦν σοι, μὴ δύνασθαι δίκην τῆς ἀποστάσεως 220c παρʼ αὐτοῦ λαβεῖν, ὅτε δὲ φίλος γέγονεν, ἀποκτείνειν.

[8] πρὸς δὲ τὸν παρασιτοῦντα τῷ βασιλεῖ καὶ περὶ τῆς φυγῆς πολλάκις ἐπισκώπτοντα αὐτόν, οὐ μαχοῦμαί σοι, ἔφη, ὦ ξένε· κατανάλωκα γὰρ τὴν τοῦ βίου τάξιν.

Ἀποφθέγματα Λακωνικά Perseus (Plutarch. Plutarchi Chaeronensis Moralia, Vol II. Vernardakēs, Grēgorios N., editor. Leipzig: Teubner, 1889.) — 28 focus

Δημαράτου

[1] Δημάρατος, Ὀρόντου πρὸς αὐτὸν σκληρότερον 220a ὁμιλήσαντος καὶ εἰπόντος τινὸς σκληρῶς σοι κέχρηται Ὀρόντης, ὦ Δημάρατε , οὐδὲν ἥμαρτεν εἰς ἐμὲ εἶπεν οἱ γὰρ πρὸς χάριν ὁμιλοῦντες βλάπτουσιν 10 οὐχ οἱ μετὰ ἀπεχθείας.

[2] ἐρωτήσαντος δέ τινος διὰ τί τοὺς μὲν τὰς ἀσπίδας παρʼ αὐτοῖς ἀποβαλόντας ἀτιμοῦσι, τοὺς δὲ τὰ κράνη καὶ τοὺς θώρακας οὐκέτι, ὅτι ἔφη ταῦτα μὲν ἑαυτῶν χάριν περιτίθενται τὴν δὲ ἀσπίδα τῆς 15 κοινῆς τάξεως ἕνεκα.

[3] ψάλτου δὲ ἀκροώμενος οὐ κακῶς εἶπε φαίνεταί μοι φλυαρεῖν.

[4] ἐν δέ τινι συνεδρίῳ ἐρωτώμενος πότερον διὰ 220b μωρίαν ἢ διʼ ἀπορίαν λόγων σιωπᾷ, ἀλλʼ ὅ γε μωρὸς 20 οὐκ ἂν δύναιτο σιγᾶν ἔφη.

[5] πυθομένου δέ τινος διὰ τί φεύγει τὴν Σπάρτην βασιλεὺς ὤν, ὅτι ἔφη κρείσσονες αὐτῆς οἱ νόμοι εἰσί.

[6] τῶν δὲ Περσῶν τινος διὰ τὸ συνεχὲς τῆς 25 δωροδοκίας τὸν ἐρώμενον αὐτοῦ ἀπαγαγόντος καὶ λέγοντος ὦ Λάκων, τεθήρευκά σου τὸν ἐρώμενον μὰ τοὺς θεούς ἔφη οὐχὶ σύ γε, ἀλλʼ ἠγόρακας.

[7] ἀποστάντος δέ τινος τῶν Περσῶν τοῦ βασιλέως καὶ μεταπεισθέντος ὑπὸ Δημαράτου ἐπανελθεῖν καὶ μέλλοντος τοῦ βασιλέως τὸν Πέρσην διαχειρίζεσθαι, αἰσχρόν ἔφη ὦ βασιλεῦ, ὅτε μὲν ἐχθρὸς 5 ἦν σοι, μὴ δύνασθαι δίκην τῆς ἀποστάσεως παρʼ 220c αὐτοῦ λαβεῖν, ὅτε δὲ φίλος γέγονεν, ἀποκτείνειν.

[8] πρὸς δὲ τὸν παρασιτοῦντα τῷ βασιλεῖ καὶ περὶ τῆς φυγῆς πολλάκις ἐπισκώπτοντα αὐτὸν οὐ μαχοῦμαί σοι ἔφη, ὦ ξένε· κατανάλωκα γὰρ τὴν 10 τοῦ βίου τάξιν.

Translations (1)

Sayings of Spartans Perseus (Plutarch. Moralia, Vol. III. Babbitt, Frank Cole, translator. Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press; London: William Heinemann Ltd., 1931 (printing).) — 28 focus

DEMARATUS¹

[1] Demaratus, when Orontes had talked to him rather haughtily and someone remarked, Orontes has treated you haughtily, Demaratus, said, He has committed no fault against me; for it is those who talk to please that do harm, not those who talk with hatred at heart.

[2] When someone asked why they visited disgrace upon those among them who lost their shields, but did not do the same thing to those who lost their helmets or their breastplates, he said, Because these they put on for their own sake, but the shield for the common good of the whole line.

[3] As he was listening to a musician, he said, He seems to do his silly task fairly well.²

[4] In a council meeting he was asked whether it was due to foolishness or lack of words that he said nothing. But a fool, said he, would not be able to hold his tongue.³

[5] When someone inquired why he was an exile from Sparta, being a king, he said, Because her laws are more powerful than I am.

[6] When one of the Persians, by unremitting bribery, had got away from him his beloved youth, and said to him, Ho, Spartan, I have captivated your beloved, he said, Not you, I swear, but you have bought and paid for him!

[7] When one of the Persians deserted from the king and was persuaded by Demaratus to change his mind and return, and the king was going to have him put to death, Demaratus said, For shame, your Majesty! To think that when this man was your enemy you could not punish him for his desertion but now that he has become your friend, you would put him to death!

[8] In answer to a man who was a parasite of the king and often jeered at him over his exile, he said, I have no quarrel with you, my friend; for I have squandered my position in life.

Notes on the current edition

Laconic Apophthegms; or Remarkable Sayings of the Spartans

1. Following Wyttenbach’s emendation for I have lost my post. (G.)

Plutarch Apophthegmata Laconica 28

ed. William W. Goodwin

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