Thucydides History of the Peloponnesian War 6.46.2

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History of the Peloponnesian War. Thucydides. Thomas Hobbes (Translator). London. 1843.

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Editions (1)
Ἱστορίαι Perseus (Thucydides. Historiae, Vol 1-2. Jones, Henry Stuart, editor. Oxford: Oxford University Press, 1910. (1942 printing).) — 6.46.2 focus
Translations (9)
History of the Peloponnesian War Perseus (Thucydides. History of the Peloponnesian War. Crawley, Richard, translator. London and Toronto: J. M. Dent and Sons Ltd.; New York: E. P. Dutton and Co., 1914.) — 6.46.2 focus
Geschichte des Peloponnesischen Kriegs First1KGreek (Thucydides. Geschichte des Peloponnesischen Kriegs. Wahrmund, Adolf, translator. Stuttgart: Krais and Hoffmann, 1864.) — 6.46 focus
Geschichte des Peloponnesischen Kriegs First1KGreek (Thucydides. Geschichte des Peloponnesischen Kriegs. Braun, Theodor, translator. Leipzig: Insel-Verlag, 1917.) — 6.46 focus
Histoire de la Guerre du Péloponèse First1KGreek (Thucydides. Histoire de la Guerre du Péloponnése, Vol. 1-2. Zévort, Marie Charles, translator. Paris: Charpentier, 1852.) — 6.46 focus
Histoire de la Guerre du Péloponnése First1KGreek (Thucydides. Histoire de la Guerre du Péloponnése. Bétant, Élie-Ami, translator. Paris: Librairie de L. Hachette, 1863.) — 6.46 focus
History of the Peloponnesian War First1KGreek (Thucydides, Vol. 1-4. Smith, Charles Foster, translator. London and Cambridge, MA: Heinemann and Harvard University Press, 1919-1923.) — 6.46.2 focus
History of the Peloponnesian War First1KGreek (Thucydides. The history of the Peloponnesian War, Volume 1-2. Dale, Henry, translator. London: Heinemann and Henry G. Bohn, 1851-1852.) — 6.46.2 focus
Historia Belli Peloponnesiaci First1KGreek (Historia Belli Peloponnesiaci. Haase, Friedrich, translator. Paris: Firmin Didot, 1869.) — 6.46.2 focus
La storia di Tucidide First1KGreek (Thucydides. Della storia di Tucidide volgarizzata libri otto. Anonymous translator. Florence: Tipografia Galileiana, 1835.) — 6.46 focus

Commentary

Commentary on Thucydides: Book 6 (Thucydides, Book VI. Marchant, Edgar C., editor. London: Macmillan and Company, 1909.) focus

ἐκ τῆς Ἐγέστης —attraction of the preposition to the verb.

φαίνεται —‘are forthcoming’)( ἀφανὴς εἷναι.

οἱ Ῥ. οὐκ ἐθελήσαντες —sc. ἀντεκεκρούκεσαν. Cf. IV. 26 αἴτιον δὲ ἦν οἱ Λακεδαιμόνιοι προειπόντες ἐσάγειν σῖτον.

πρῶτον ἤρξαντο —often combined to emphasise the moment of beginning.

πείθειν —of attempt.

εἰκὸς ἦν —sc. ξυστρατεύειν, as also with πείθειν .

προσδεχομένῳ ἦν —this idiom is found also with γίγνομαι. The same in Lat. with volenti esse, and once with other words, viz. Tac. An. I. 59 ut quibusque bellum invitis aut cupientibus erat.

καὶ ἀλογώτερα —‘even more incomprehensible’ than it was unexpected. The antithesis clearly implies οὐ προσδεχομἐνοις ἦν. (These words are explained in various ways: (1) ‘even more incomprehensible than the defection of the Rhegians,’ Stahl, Jowett; (2) ‘even more unexpected than it was expected by Nicias,’ Fr. Muller, etc.; (3) ‘upset their calculations all the more because they had believed the reports of the envoys,’ Classen; (4) ‘somewhat disconcerting,’ Hertland, Journ. Philol. XXIV.) Stein reads άπορώτερα .

τότε ὅτε —both this and τότε ὅταν are fairly frequent.

οἱ πρῶτοι π —c. 6, 3; 8, 1.

ἔς τε —answered by καὶ ἰδίᾳ.

τὸ ἐν Ἔρυκι —founded, according to legend, by Aeneas. Aen. V. 759 .

ὄντα ἀργυρᾶ —Grote and Freeman understand ‘silver-gilt,’ but this can hardly be right, unless ἐπάργυρα ‘overlaid with silver,’ or ὑπάργυρα ‘silver overlaid with gold,’ be read. With άργυρᾶ the sense must be that, being silver, the number was imposing, though the value was comparatively small.

αἰτησάμενοι —‘borrowing.’ Lys. 24 § 12 after ἀλλοτρίοις ἵπποις χρῆσθαι speaks of οἱ ᾐτημένοι ἵπποι.

παρεῖχε —sc. αὐτά, the spectacle, the gen. abs. being used in conjunction with πάντων . . χρωμένων, though strictly πολλὰ φαινόμενα is required. The substitution of the gen. abs. for a dat. is not very rare, but the substitution for a nom. is unusual; cf. VII. 48 , 2 χρημάτων άπορίᾳ ἐκτρυχώσειν, ἄλλως τε καὶ . . θαλασσοκρατούντων (for ‐ες). Livy XX III. 24 pontem fluminis petentes, obsesso ante ab hostibus ponte.

αἰτίαν εἶχον ὑπό —see c. 14, 1 n.