Thucydides, History of the Peloponnesian War, Theodor Braun (Translator), 8.29

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Im folgenden Winter kam Tissaphernes, nachdem er Jasos
befestigt und eine Besatzung hineingelegt hatte, nach Milet
und ließ, wie er das in Lakedämon versprochen, der gesamten
Schiffsmannschaft den Monatssold im Betrage einer attischen
Drachme für den Mann auszahlen, erklärte jedoch, von nun
an werde er, bis er die Entscheidung des Königs eingeholt,
nur drei Obolen geben und erst, wenn der es genehmigt, die
volle Drachme zahlen lassen. Da jedoch Hermokrates, der
syrakusische Feldherr, dagegen Widerspruch erhob, während
Therimenes in betreff des Soldes ohne weiteres nachgegeben
hatte, da er nicht selbst Befehlshaber der Flotte war, sondern
die Fahrt nur mitmachte, weil er Astyochos die Schiffe zuge
führt, so wurden dennoch auf je fünf Schiffe mehr als drei
Obolen für den Mann zugestanden. Denn er gab für fünf
Schiffe monatlich drei Talente, und für die überzähligen, so
weit sie nicht in fünf aufgingen, wurde nach demselben Ver
hältnis gezahlt.

History of the Peloponnesian War. Thucydides. Theodor Braun (Translator). Leipzig. 1917.

Current edition First1KGreek

Geschichte des Peloponnesischen Kriegs (German) (Thucydides. Geschichte des Peloponnesischen Kriegs. Braun, Theodor, translator. Leipzig: Insel-Verlag, 1917.)

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Ἱστορίαι Perseus (Thucydides. Historiae, Vol 1-2. Jones, Henry Stuart, editor. Oxford: Oxford University Press, 1910. (1942 printing).) — 8.29.1 focus

[1] τοῦ δ’ ἐπιγιγνομένου χειμῶνος, ἐπειδὴ τὴν Ἴασον κατεστήσατο ὁ Τισσαφέρνης ἐς φυλακήν, παρῆλθεν ἐς τὴν Μίλητον, καὶ μηνὸς μὲν τροφήν, ὥσπερ ὑπέστη ἐν τῇ Λακεδαίμονι, ἐς δραχμὴν Ἀττικὴν ἑκάστῳ πάσαις ταῖς ναυσὶ διέδωκε, τοῦ δὲ λοιποῦ χρόνου ἐβούλετο τριώβολον διδόναι, ἕως ἂν βασιλέα ἐπέρηται· ἢν δὲ κελεύῃ, δώσειν ἔφη ἐντελῆ τὴν δραχμήν.

[2] Ἑρμοκράτους δὲ ἀντειπόντος τοῦ Συρακοσίου στρατηγοῦ (ὁ γὰρ Θηριμένης οὐ ναύαρχος ὤν, ἀλλ’ Ἀστυόχῳ παραδοῦναι τὰς ναῦς ξυμπλέων μαλακὸς ἦν περὶ τοῦ μισθοῦ) ὅμως δὲ παρὰ πέντε ναῦς πλέον ἀνδρὶ ἑκάστῳ ἢ τρεῖς ὀβολοὶ ὡμολογήθησαν. ἐς γὰρ πέντε ναῦς καὶ πεντήκοντα τριάκοντα τάλαντα ἐδίδου τοῦ μηνός· καὶ τοῖς ἄλλοις, ὅσῳ πλείους νῆες ἦσαν τούτου τοῦ ἀριθμοῦ, κατὰ τὸν αὐτὸν λόγον τοῦτον ἐδίδοτο.

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The History of the Grecian War Perseus (Thucydides. The English works of Thomas Hobbes of Malmesbury. Hobbes, Thomas. translator. London: John Bohn, 1843.) — 8.29.1 focus

[1] The next winter, Tissaphernes, after he had put a garrison into Iasus, came to Miletus; and for one month's pay, which was promised on his part at Lacedaemon, he gave unto the soldiers through the whole fleet after an Attic drachma a man by the day. But for the rest of the time he would pay but three oboles till he had asked the king's pleasure; and if the king commanded it, then he said he would pay them the full drachma.

[2] Nevertheless upon the contradiction of Hermocrates, general of the Syracusians (for Theramenes was but slack in exacting pay, as not being general, but only to deliver the galleys that came with him to Astyochus), it was agreed that but for the five galleys that were over and above, they should have more than three oboles a man. For to fifty-five galleys he allowed three talents a month, and to as many as should be more than that number, after the same proportion.

History of the Peloponnesian War Perseus (Thucydides. History of the Peloponnesian War. Crawley, Richard, translator. London and Toronto: J. M. Dent and Sons Ltd.; New York: E. P. Dutton and Co., 1914.) — 8.29.1 focus

[1] Summer was now over. The winter following Tissaphernes put Iasus in a state of defence, and passing on to Miletus distributed a month's pay to all the ships as he had promised at Lacedaemon , at the rate of an Attic drachma a day for each man. In future, however, he was resolved not to give more than three obols, until he had consulted the king; when if the king should so order he would give, he said, the full drachma.

[2] However, upon the protest of the Syracusan general Hermocrates (for as Therimenes was not admiral, but only accompanied them in order to hand over the ships to Astyochus, he made little difficulty about the pay), it was agreed that the amount of five ships' pay should be given over and above the three obols a day for each man; Tissaphernes paying thirty talents a month for fifty-five ships, and to the rest, for as many ships as they had beyond that number, at the same rate.

Geschichte des Peloponnesischen Kriegs First1KGreek (Thucydides. Geschichte des Peloponnesischen Kriegs. Wahrmund, Adolf, translator. Stuttgart: Krais and Hoffmann, 1864.) — 8.29 focus

Im folgenden Winter kam Tissaphernes, nachdem er
Jasos zu einem festen Posten gemacht hatte,'.nach Milet und^ zählte, wie
er zu Lakedämon versprochen hatte, sämmtlichen Schiffen den
monatlichen Sold aus, eine attische Drachme auf den Mann; für später
aber wollte er nur drei Obolen'geben, , bis er erst beim-König
angefragt hätte. Würde der zustimmen, so wolle er ihnen die Drachme
ganz zahlen. Dem widersprach aber Hermokrates, der
Syrakufanische Feldherr — Theramenes nämlich war nicht als Befehlshaber
der Flotte da, sondern nur mitgekommen, um die Schiffe dem
Astyochos zu übergeben, und zeigte sich in Betreff des SoldeS'nachgiebig
— und so kamen sie denn doch überein, daß auf jeden Mann mehr
als drei Obolen gezahlt werden sollten. Auf je-fünfSchiffe gab ¹
nämlich Tissaphernes drei Talente monatlich, und so auch im Ver« ²
hältniß den übrigen Schiffen, um welche jene Zahl überstiegen
wurde

Histoire de la Guerre du Péloponèse First1KGreek (Thucydides. Histoire de la Guerre du Péloponnése, Vol. 1-2. Zévort, Marie Charles, translator. Paris: Charpentier, 1852.) — 8.29 focus

XXIX. L’hiver suivant¹, Tissaphernes, après avoir armé lasos pour s’en faire un point d’appui, passa à Milet et paya, conformément à la promesse qu’il avait faite à Lacédémone, un mois de solde aux équipages de tous les navires à raison d’une drachme attique par homme². Pour le reste du temps, il ne voulut donner que trois oboles, jusqu’à ce qu’il en eût référé au Roi, promettant de compléter la drachme sur son ordre. Hermocrates, le général syracusain, refusa cet arrangement. Théramènes, au contraire, qui ne commandait pas la flotte et ne l’avait accompagnée que pour la re- ³⁴⁵ mettre à Astyochos, traita mollement cette question de la solde. Cependant la somme attribuée à chaque groupe de cinq vaisseaux porta la solde à plus de trois oboles⁶ par homme; car elle fut fixée, pour cinquante vaisseaux, à trois talents chaque mois par cinq bâtiments⁷, et à une somme proportionnelle pour tous les bâtiments en sus⁸.

Histoire de la Guerre du Péloponnése First1KGreek (Thucydides. Histoire de la Guerre du Péloponnése. Bétant, Élie-Ami, translator. Paris: Librairie de L. Hachette, 1863.) — 8.29 focus

L’hiver suivant, Tissapherne, après avoir mis Iasos en état de défense, se rendit à Milet. Là, selon l’engagement qu’il avait pris avec Lacédémone, il paya un mois de solde aux équipages de tous les vaisseaux, à raison d’une drachme atti-que par homme; pour le reste du temps, il ne voulut donner que trois oboles, jusqu’à ce qu’il en eût référé au roi ; promettant, avec son autorisation, de donner la drachme entière. Le général syracusain Hermocratès fut seul à réclamer; car Théra-ménès, n’étant pas navarque, mais seulement chargé de remettre la flotte à Astyochos, prit médiocrement à cœur la question de la solde. Toutefois, il fut convenu que, par groupe de cinq vaisseaux, on donnerait aux équipages une légère somme en sus des trois oboles par homme : en effet, Tissapherne payait trois talents par mois pour cinq vaisseaux, et pour le surplus une somme proportionnelle¹.

History of the Peloponnesian War First1KGreek (Thucydides, Vol. 1-4. Smith, Charles Foster, translator. London and Cambridge, MA: Heinemann and Harvard University Press, 1919-1923.) — 8.29.1 focus

[1] During the following winter, after he had placed Iasus in charge of a garrison, Tissaphernes came to Miletus, where he distributed to all the ships a month's pay, as he had promised at Lacedaemon to do, to the amount of an Attic drachma a day for each man; for the future, however, he proposed to give only three obols¹ until he should ask the King;

[2] if the King should so order, he would give the full drachma. But when Hermocrates the Syracusan general remonstrated-for Therimenes, not being admiral, but sailing with the fleet only to turn it over to Astyochus, was complaisant about the pay-a sum was agreed upon notwithstanding that was larger by five ships than three obols for each man.² For he gave for fifty-five ships thirty talents a month³; and to the others, according as there were more ships than this number, pay was given in the same proportion.⁴

History of the Peloponnesian War First1KGreek (Thucydides. The history of the Peloponnesian War, Volume 1-2. Dale, Henry, translator. London: Heinemann and Henry G. Bohn, 1851-1852.) — 8.29.1 focus

[1] The following winter, when Tissaphernes had put Iasus into a state of defence, he passed on to Miletus, and distributed amongst all the ships a month's pay, as he had undertaken at Lacedaemon, at the rate of an Attic drachma a man per day, but wished in future to give but three oboli, until he had consulted the king; should he, however, command it, he said he would give them the full drachma.

[2] When Hermocrates, the Syracusan commander, objected to this, (for Theramenes, inasmuch as he was not admiral, but only sailing with them to deliver up the fleet to Astyochus, was easy on the subject of pay,) there was fixed, notwithstanding, a sum [for the whole fleet] larger ¹ by five ships than three oboli a man per day. For he gave three talents a month for five ships, and to the rest, according as they had vessels beyond this number, was given in the same proportion.

Historia Belli Peloponnesiaci First1KGreek (Historia Belli Peloponnesiaci. Haase, Friedrich, translator. Paris: Firmin Didot, 1869.) — 8.29.1 focus

[1] Insequente autem hieme Tissaphernes, postea-quam Iasum praesidio munivit, Miletum advenit, et, quemadmodum Lacedaemone promiserat, menstruum stipendium navibus omnibus numeravit, singulas drachraa9 Atticas viritim; in reliquum vero tempus ternos obolos dare volebat, donec regem consuluisset qui si juberet, daturum se dicebat integram drachmam.

[2] Verum Her-mocrate Syracusanorum duce contradicente (Therimenes enim, quod non erat nauarchus, sed ad tradendam Astyo-cho classem cum illis navigabat, in stipendii exactione remissior erat) tamen inter eos convenit, ut ratione per quinas quasque naves inita plus quam terni oboli viritim persolverentur. Nam quinis navibus terna talenta in singulos menses dabat; ceterisque navibus, quae non cadebant in hunc numerum, ad eamdem hanc rationem solvebatur.

La storia di Tucidide First1KGreek (Thucydides. Della storia di Tucidide volgarizzata libri otto. Anonymous translator. Florence: Tipografia Galileiana, 1835.) — 8.29 focus

Al sopravvenir dell’ inverno Tissaferne , poiché ebbe lasciato uu presidio in laso , recossi a Mileto ; e, conforme avea promesso in Sparta, distribuì in tutte le navi una dramma atlica per ciaschedun soldato; intendendo perù di dare in seguito tre oboli a testa, finché non avesse sentito il parere del re , dopo l’ordine del quale, diceva, che pagherebbe tutta intera una dramma. Ma Ermocrate generale siracusano (giacché Teramene, il quale non era ammiraglio della flotta e solo si trovava a bordo con gli altri per consegnarla ad Astioco, mostra vasi freddo nell affar delle paghe), vi si oppose ; ed alla line fu conveuuto che senza parlare delle cinque navi della Lacouia, ogni soldato dovesse avere qualcosa più di tre oboli. Poiché Tissaferne per quelle cinque navi dava tre talenti al mese ; ed agli altri, secoudo che aumentava il numero delle navi, si pagava lo stipendio a questa medesima stregua.

Thucydides History of the Peloponnesian War 8.29

Theodor Braun (Translator)

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